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Breaking news - Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris on fire

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#801
1 hour ago, Post Oak said:

They were up close and personal with the Rose Window. One interesting nugget is that stained glass is only made up of glass from the 13th century and the 19th century. There was no updated/renovated glass in that window for more than 500 years.


I took it that the 19th century renovations removed all other years glass except what was original 13th century and then remade panels for those pieces and that was why only glass from those two era’s.  


 

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#803

Great video.  Still not a fan of using lead for the roof again.  I realize they want to maintain historical accuracy.  But lead in this day and age?  I would draw the line there.

#804
Great video.  Still not a fan of using lead for the roof again.  I realize they want to maintain historical accuracy.  But lead in this day and age?  I would draw the line there.
What's wrong with lead roofing?
#805
5 hours ago, gsoda3 said:
6 hours ago, 27-25 said:
Great video.  Still not a fan of using lead for the roof again.  I realize they want to maintain historical accuracy.  But lead in this day and age?  I would draw the line there.

What's wrong with lead roofing?

Runoff contains lead

#806
3 minutes ago, Upgrayedd said:

Runoff contains lead

Has there not been an advance in technology in the last 700 years? 

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#807
42 minutes ago, SamsCorner said:

Has there not been an advance in technology in the last 700 years? 

Yes.  Lead-free roofing materials.

#808

The Historic New Orleans Collection has an interactive Notre Dame exhibit until March.  Was pretty damn impressive.

#809
11 hours ago, Post Oak said:

They are completely cleaning the centuries of candle smoke (and obviously fire smoke) from the limestone on the interior. 

I know the French don't like to wash, but god damn.

#810
3 hours ago, Upgrayedd said:

Runoff contains lead

does the runoff contain enough lead to cause concern?  i hadn't heard of issues with the old roof but maybe all the lead had leached out over 700 years?

#811
1 hour ago, gsoda3 said:

does the runoff contain enough lead to cause concern?  i hadn't heard of issues with the old roof but maybe all the lead had leached out over 700 years?

The video above mentioned the problem with lead dust.  It's one of the things holding up other restoration work.  I read elsewhere that the powers that be who decided to go with a lead roof to maintain historical consistency boasted that the new runoff system will have some mechanism in place to catch and filter water.

So everyone seems to agree that lead is a health problem.  There is a slight runoff risk that will be mitigated.  The fire showed there is a great lead dust risk should another fire break out.

We don't generally insist on asbestos when renovating structures that used that in the past.  Historical accuracy should have limits of some kind.

#814
12 hours ago, gsoda3 said:
12 hours ago, 27-25 said:
Great video.  Still not a fan of using lead for the roof again.  I realize they want to maintain historical accuracy.  But lead in this day and age?  I would draw the line there.

What's wrong with lead roofing?

Nothing.  We use lead all the time in roofing.   
 

Lead roof drain liners, lead-coated copper, lead soaker sheets, lead soil vent covers, lead transition details and lead in solder.  

#815
3 hours ago, deadshank said:

Nothing.  We use lead all the time in roofing.   
 

Lead roof drain liners, lead-coated copper, lead soaker sheets, lead soil vent covers, lead transition details and lead in solder.  

Yes, but now you're a drooling moron who frequently pisses himself.

I mean, I assume that's the case, since you're a Surly poster.....

#819
15 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Yes, but now you're a drooling moron who frequently pisses himself.

I mean, I assume that's the case, since you're a Surly poster.....

Being a drooling moron was a prerequisite for entry into the roofing industry and not an effect of being in it and around lead. 

#820
That’s an insult to Surly posters. We shit ourselves, we don’t piss ourselves.
Speak for yourself. If I’m shitting myself, I’m pissing myself.
And I might be fapping too.
#821

I grew up playing with paint chips in a house from the 1850s and they ain't nothin wrong with me NOR my great-granpappy's ghost.

Is that right 3-paw?

That's right boy.

#822
8 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

Speak for yourself. If I’m shitting myself, I’m pissing myself.
And I might be fapping too.

Ahhhh yes.

The ole evac-ejac.

#826
On 12/18/2022 at 12:35 PM, Gatorubet said:

Speak for yourself. If I’m shitting myself, I’m pissing myself.
And I might be fapping too.

That's a true SEC triple threat-right there.

#827
3 hours ago, BlueGreySky said:

That's a true SEC triple threat-right there.

Nah.  Just my Oregon State bowl experience on TV.

#828
14 hours ago, luke duke said:


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It's from our Bag O'-line.  (adjusts tie), you know the kids love this.  Bag O'-Lead Paint Chips.  You know?  The kids learn about heavy metals, periodic table, what-not.  It's great, ya' know ? (adjusts tie).  Look, we're just packaging what the kids want.

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#836

 

Was in paris two summers ago. The amount of scaffolding on the outside of notre dame was insane. I have pictures somewhere. I'll see if I can find them. 

 

Saw job posting in both paris and london for "scaffoldeurs." 

Seems the euros love them some scaffolding, but really hate cherry pickers. 

 

#837
40 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

Was in paris two summers ago. The amount of scaffolding on the outside of notre dame was insane. I have pictures somewhere. I'll see if I can find them. 

 

Saw job posting in both paris and london for "scaffoldeurs." 

Seems the euros love them some scaffolding, but really hate cherry pickers. 

 

It appears Notre Dame has learned its lessons from all things cherry pickers, scissor lifts, etc.

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