March 25, 20187 yr Shaggy wine Douche thread was one of the best things going. Looking forward to this discussion.
March 25, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, F250 said: We will need a $50 and under thread for the non-douche wine aficionados. This. I love good wine and would like to hear about QPR finds. I did open a 2000 Don Melchor last night to go with steaks. Was drinking great. Still have a 2001,2003, 2004, and 2006.
March 25, 20187 yr I opened a 2013 Honig Cabernet Sauvignon last night. My first exposure to this was at a foundation fundraiser earlier in the year where it was paired with the filet selection. It has since been my go to wine with red meats.
March 25, 20187 yr Love Honig. Honig, Sequoia Grove, Caravan are some of my favorite steak cabs. All can be had in the $30 range I believe.
March 26, 20187 yr Ok here's a question for the experts. (would that be considered an oxymoron?) I originally started on wine years ago drinking Shiraz. I found the acidity along with my poor diet caused me to have acid reflux. My diet has been corrected and I have since shifted over to Pinot Noir. I normally stick to the $10-15 dollar bottles. Any suggestions on brands or even different types of wine? Not big into the sweet stuff, red or white. Thanks. I'll hang up and listen.
March 26, 20187 yr 5 hours ago, F250 said: We will need a $50 and under thread for the non-douche wine aficionados. Probably 90 percent of wine I buy is under $50 a bottle.
March 26, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, HenryJames said: Probably 90 percent of wine I buy is under $50 a bottle. This right here.
March 26, 20187 yr I'm sure collectors pay a lot for wine but I've never paid more than $25.00. Give me a Rioja for $15-$20 and I'm a happy camper.
March 26, 20187 yr 13 hours ago, nivek3 said: Ok here's a question for the experts. (would that be considered an oxymoron?) I originally started on wine years ago drinking Shiraz. I found the acidity along with my poor diet caused me to have acid reflux. My diet has been corrected and I have since shifted over to Pinot Noir. I normally stick to the $10-15 dollar bottles. Any suggestions on brands or even different types of wine? Not big into the sweet stuff, red or white. Thanks. I'll hang up and listen. Interesting. Typically Shiraz wines (at least the ones that garner big scores from Parker, et al.) have been lower in acid than average over the last 10-15 years. Pinot Noir (especially from Oregon) would by higher in acidity, generally speaking. Big sweet stuff usually means lower acid.
March 26, 20187 yr Blew through several 1999 Hermitage's last night with pork tenderloin. Forgot to take pictures. One was a Delas (that was corked). The Guigal was good but not great. None of them really stood out to me as memorable. Disappointing showing for them.
March 26, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, DDD Dad said: Interesting. Typically Shiraz wines (at least the ones that garner big scores from Parker, et al.) have been lower in acid than average over the last 10-15 years. Pinot Noir (especially from Oregon) would by higher in acidity, generally speaking. Big sweet stuff usually means lower acid. Wonder if it had anything to do with the specific brands I was drinking? Honestly I've always bought on the cheaper side until my taste matures enough to settle into something worthy.
March 26, 20187 yr Hard to find good New World Pinot Noir that shows varietal typicity in the sub $15 category. If you are willing to spend $30-40 a bottle there are lots of really good options, though. Burgundy is a whole different animal (and you could spend years digging around there to find a style and price point that works). Best bet for Old World Pinot Noir is to try village wines. There are lots in the sub $30 category that are decent and typical of the grape with generally (but not necessarily always) a little earthier flavor profile than their New World counterparts. Village meaning, "Bourgogne" and similar on the label as opposed to a 1er Cru or vineyard specific wine.
March 26, 20187 yr On 3/25/2018 at 1:55 PM, F250 said: We will need a $50 and under thread for the non-douche wine aficionados. If you like bubbly wine, I strongly recommend Conundrum Sparkling Rose. Had it when we did a tasting at the Caymus winery in Napa. Fruity, but not sweet. One of my favorite champagnes ever. And only $25 a bottle.
March 26, 20187 yr 5 hours ago, DDD Dad said: Hard to find good New World Pinot Noir that shows varietal typicity in the sub $15 category. If you are willing to spend $30-40 a bottle there are lots of really good options, though. Burgundy is a whole different animal (and you could spend years digging around there to find a style and price point that works). Best bet for Old World Pinot Noir is to try village wines. There are lots in the sub $30 category that are decent and typical of the grape with generally (but not necessarily always) a little earthier flavor profile than their New World counterparts. Village meaning, "Bourgogne" and similar on the label as opposed to a 1er Cru or vineyard specific wine. The layers of knowledge behind can be a little daunting. Hell I just bought a Vinturi a few months back and was surprised at the difference it makes. Which I am guessing in some circles it is frowned upon to use this device.
March 26, 20187 yr What are the wine douches thoughts on the Beckstoffer wines out of Napa? I've had a few of them and while I think they are very good wines, the price (usually in the $150 range retail) is a bit offputting. I'm not sure they are twice as good as Caymus Cab, for example. And what makes his grapes so special?
March 26, 20187 yr 7 minutes ago, Chewbacca said: If you like bubbly wine, I strongly recommend Conundrum Sparkling Rose. Had it when we did a tasting at the Caymus winery in Napa. Fruity, but not sweet. One of my favorite champagnes ever. And only $25 a bottle. Is this one dry? I normally don't drink fruity, but it might be refreshing come summertime. I'll make a note to get a bottle for that first hot summer night on the back patio.
March 26, 20187 yr Just now, nivek3 said: Is this one dry? I normally don't drink fruity, but it might be refreshing come summertime. I'll make a note to get a bottle for that first hot summer night on the back patio. Not super dry, no. I don't like really dry champagne. Can't stand Veuve, for example.
March 26, 20187 yr 12 minutes ago, Chewbacca said: What are the wine douches thoughts on the Beckstoffer wines out of Napa? I've had a few of them and while I think they are very good wines, the price (usually in the $150 range retail) is a bit offputting. I'm not sure they are twice as good as Caymus Cab, for example. And what makes his grapes so special? Andy Beckstoffer owns some of the most highly regarded, oldest vineyards in Napa on some of the best property in the region. He charges a high premium for grapes from there, and a number of the top (most sought-after) wineries feature single vineyard designate wines from them. Off the top of my head, the Beckstoffer-Tokalon and Beckstoffer Georges III are among the most famous, which he bought from Beaulieu Vineyards. The Tokalon vineyard is shared with Robert Mondavi, who owns the other half of it. I've had many Cabernet Sauvignon (primarily) wines from both of these as well as the Dr. Crane vineyard. They all have been, pretty much without exception, fantastic wines. Are they worth the tariff? Probably not, but it all depends on your price point comfort level, I suppose.
March 26, 20187 yr 17 hours ago, Mo Horn said: I'm sure collectors pay a lot for wine but I've never paid more than $25.00. Give me a Rioja for $15-$20 and I'm a happy camper. Have you had this one? I like it quite a bit.
March 26, 20187 yr Yeah, I've had the Dr. Crane Vice Versa Cab at French Laundry and it was fantastic. Visited a small, newer winery called Fontanella while we were out there. They were able to get some Georges III grapes from him and that Cab is great as well. Holy shit, does everyone in Napa suck that dude's cock, though.
March 26, 20187 yr 7 minutes ago, kevwun said: Have you had this one? I like it quite a bit. I have not but it's now on my shopping list. Thanks
March 26, 20187 yr 2 hours ago, Chewbacca said: Yeah, I've had the Dr. Crane Vice Versa Cab at French Laundry and it was fantastic. Visited a small, newer winery called Fontanella while we were out there. They were able to get some Georges III grapes from him and that Cab is great as well. Holy shit, does everyone in Napa suck that dude's cock, though. In the past I found a wine from a basically unknown winery in Calistoga (I'm thinking this was back in 2005 or earlier) that had bought George III grapes and sold under their label. I want to say the price point at the time was well under $50 a bottle (maybe $30?). Was fantastic stuff and relatively cheap. Have never seen that wine available again. I imagine their contract expired and the winery likely went out of business. Will dig around my old inventory to see if I can find the name of it.
March 27, 20187 yr Tried Vivino's "scan wine list" function for the first time this past weekend, and am blown away how quickly and effectively it worked. Take a pic of the entire page of the wine list, and it overlays the ratings right onto it with color coding so you can easily see the highlights of the list. Worked even quicker than a single bottle scan, probably because it just had to do OCR and send text for search instead of doing image matching. On the old board someone recommended Cellar Tracker to me - turns out that app uses Vivino's database. I wasn't able to get much further with it as it never could finish matching a label scan (despite trying multiple devices and multiple internet connections), so I went back to using Vivino. Got a chance to compare prices across US, Thailand duty-free, and Thailand normal shop (with duty). Phelps Insignia, US price via Vivino was $215. Thailand duty-free was $281. Thailand normal shop was $515. Brutal. That said, I've also found a few instances where a wine is priced high due to demand in the US, but noone here knows about it. Kistler I found a little cheaper here than the Vivino US price. Other than Coravin, maybe with BottleThief adapter to use bulk Argon, are there really any other alternatives to keep wine yet allow partial servings? I simply don't drink enough and don't have enough friends living remotely nearby to open a bottle very often. Plus, I'm trying to learn and try different wines, so the goal really isn't to drink a whole bottle. It's expensive, a Coravin+BottleThief comes out to around $400, but I have far more than that in wine already. I've started ordering occasional glasses to try if I spot something really well rated and priced at a restaurant (hence my pleasant experience with the Vivino list scanner above), knowing I'm getting killed on the price. Sam
March 27, 20187 yr I generally have a glass of wine every evening once the kids are in bed. We usually buy a box as our daily drinker just due to the simplicity and cost. The best I have found is bota box nighthawk. Any other good boxes?
March 27, 20187 yr If I have a box simply for the ease and cost I end up drinking much more than one glass a night after the kids are asleep.
March 28, 20187 yr I fucking love how many of these threads have picked up right where they left off. I picked up some Popeyes tonight and decided to pair it with a Dellamotte NV. A pretty delightful combination.
March 29, 20187 yr Vivino app is pretty slick. You just have to be wary about the reviews. Doesn't always line up with my tastes.
March 29, 20187 yr On 3/27/2018 at 8:43 PM, HookEm said: and? I don’t know. The post doesn’t even make sense to me now. Give me a sad face. I don’t care.
March 29, 20187 yr 1990 R. D. Great vintage for champagne. I have a csb story about 1990 vintage champagne. I was in NYC walking to a show and ran across this little wine shop and decided to walk in and peruse. Found a 1990 Salon for $300 and I was like seriously? The little Indian owner said of course and was happy to sell it. Took it to Jungsik and enjoyed with some fantastic Uni. Beautiful wine. Anyway, carry on. Edited March 29, 20187 yr by b_p
March 29, 20187 yr Love that story. Reminds me (not quite to your extent though) when I found a couple of bottles of a cab I love in a random liquor store between Sacramento and Reno. They were 2004s (this was 2014) and the price tag must have been on there since they bought them. I think they were $65 and the vineyard was selling those library bottles for $140 or so.
March 29, 20187 yr 10 hours ago, b_p said: 1990 R. D. Great vintage for champagne. I have a csb story about 1990 vintage champagne. I was in NYC walking to a show and ran across this little wine shop and decided to walk in and peruse. Found a 1990 Salon for $300 and I was like seriously? The little Indian owner said of course and was happy to sell it. Took it to Jungsik and enjoyed with some fantastic Uni. Beautiful wine. Anyway, carry on. Jealous. I've been wanting to get my hands on Salon for a while.
April 1, 20187 yr Went to Fausto last night, a new italian place in Brooklyn, and they had this gem on the menu. Was delicious, and for only $60 I thought it was a great value.
April 1, 20187 yr 2 hours ago, Reynolds Woodcock said: Went to Fausto last night, a new italian place in Brooklyn, and they had this gem on the menu. Was delicious, and for only $60 I thought it was a great value. Wow, aged Barbera for $60. Was it at the end of its drinking window? Even if so, still a great find.
April 1, 20187 yr On 3/25/2018 at 9:25 PM, HenryJames said: Probably 90 percent of wine I buy is under $50 a bottle. Yep.
April 1, 20187 yr Barbera is one of my go to everyday drinking wines. Nice price point too as I can usually find one easily in the $20-$25 range that is delicious.
April 1, 20187 yr Wow, aged Barbera for $60. Was it at the end of its drinking window? Even if so, still a great find.Yep, we were told it was near the end of its window. Everyone at the table thought it was excellent.
April 1, 20187 yr A few days late, but finally in. I vow to post every bottle of wine I drink from this day forward.
April 1, 20187 yr 2 hours ago, Reynolds Woodcock said: Yep, we were told it was near the end of its window. Everyone at the table thought it was excellent. Awesome. Thanks for the response.
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