March 31, 20187 yr In another interview with his longtime atheist friend, Eugenio Scalfari, Pope Francis claims that Hell does not exist and that condemned souls just "disappear." This is a denial of the 2,000-year-old teaching of the Catholic Church about the reality of Hell and the eternal existence of the soul. The interview between Scalfari and the Pope was published March 28, 2018 in La Repubblica. The relevant section on Hell was translated by the highly respected web log, Rorate Caeli. The interview is headlined, "The Pope: It is an honor to be called revolutionary." (Il Papa: “È un onore essere chiamato rivoluzionario.") Scalfari says to the Pope, "Your Holiness, in our previous meeting you told me that our species will disappear in a certain moment and that God, still out of his creative force, will create new species. You have never spoken to me about the souls who died in sin and will go to hell to suffer it for eternity. You have however spoken to me of good souls, admitted to the contemplation of God. But what about bad souls? Where are they punished?" Pope Francis says, "They are not punished, those who repent obtain the forgiveness of God and enter the rank of souls who contemplate him, but those who do not repent and cannot therefore be forgiven disappear. There is no hell, there is the disappearance of sinful souls." https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/pope-francis-there-no-hell
March 31, 20187 yr Live forever, solid gold streets, totally enlightened, etc. or cease to exist. One ticket to non-hell please. The other sounds boring AF.
March 31, 20187 yr 21 minutes ago, bschoolprof said: How does the fairy tell work then if there is no hell? It's an all or nothing prop bet.
March 31, 20187 yr 44 minutes ago, Kringelbert Fishtybuns said: When numbers start dropping, sometimes you have to change the marketing team. Ain’t this the fucking truth. Next up. Gay Pope.
March 31, 20187 yr Is there some patristic line of thought that he is tying his statement to, or is it just Francis doing his Francis thing? There is a basis in patristics to come to a conclusion that heaven and hell are the same place, but I am not aware of one for this line.
March 31, 20187 yr 9 hours ago, bschoolprof said: How does the fairy tell work then if there is no hell? No tale-ing. Besides, Hell is for children.
April 1, 20187 yr How the hell would he know?What’s the proof that it does exist? There is none? Cool.
April 1, 20187 yr 3 minutes ago, Bort said: 3 minutes ago, Bort said: This Pope fella is just making it up as he goes along You can't not be in positive territory with that avatar. Have some... Edited April 1, 20187 yr by ChiTownDoc
April 1, 20187 yr 36 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said: You can't not be in positive territory with that avatar. Have some... Is this how it feels to be objectified?
April 1, 20187 yr My current religious philosophy is “I don’t care”, but I grew up baptist. Therefore, I read the Bible a lot. Lots of hell in there. So do Catholics now have to decide between the Bible and the pope?
April 1, 20187 yr Vatican line is that he didn't say it, and that the article misrepresented PF's words Same publication, run by a well known Italian Athiest that in 2013 pubilished Francis as having "abolished sin", and is 96 but doesn't use a recorder or take notes when he interviews just goes by his impressions and memory
April 1, 20187 yr The Bible was written by man, so it can be wrong. Statements from the Pope are the infallible word of God.
April 1, 20187 yr 41 minutes ago, Larry T. Spider said: I read the Bible a lot. Lots of hell in there. You must not read the Old Testament much.
April 1, 20187 yr Discussions of hell and the Old Testament get out of my range pretty quickly. Translations of the word “sheol” abound and I go get a beer...
April 1, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, Larry T. Spider said: Discussions of hell and the Old Testament get out of my range pretty quickly. Translations of the word “sheol” abound and I go get a beer... How many times did you find it translated as "Hell" or a place of fire, of eternal torture? In the King James Version it's translated as "the grave." A land of the dead isn't original to Judeo-Christisn mythology but as far as I can tell the concept of eternal torture for not subscribing to a particular theology is a Christian invention.
April 1, 20187 yr 8 hours ago, Larry T. Spider said: Discussions of hell and the Old Testament get out of my range pretty quickly. Translations of the word “sheol” abound and I go get a beer... Well, it's definitely a "lake of fire" from Revelations, which of course is derived from the Nirvana song, which of course is in turn derived from "Smoke on the Water." Pretty simple, see?
April 1, 20187 yr VATICAN CITY—In an effort to make the holiday as stress-free as possible for everyone, Pope Francis asked congregants gathered at St. Peter’s Basilica Thursday if it would be okay to just do a low-key Easter this year. “I know we usually get dressed up and make a big deal out of Easter, but wouldn’t it be nice if just this once we had one laid-back mass on Sunday and then called it a day?” said the Supreme Pontiff, noting that while he loved the tradition, he was completely swamped for most of Lent and did not have much time to prepare for the Christian festival this year. “We can definitely do a little communion Easter morning, and maybe we’ll have a quick homily, but, honestly, can we all just save ourselves the hassle and skip Good Friday?” At press time, the Pope was stressing that Easter was really about spending time with loved ones while wondering aloud if it might be better for everyone to just grab brunch at a bistro in Rome’s Flaminio district. Edited April 1, 20187 yr by Assman
April 1, 20187 yr 8 hours ago, Mole said: Who knew the Pope was a Seventh Day Adventist? I wonder how many Popes have been atheists.
April 1, 20187 yr On 3/31/2018 at 6:14 PM, Underdog said: No tale-ing. Besides, Hell is for children. Seems like a pat answer.
April 2, 20187 yr 5 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said: I wonder how many Popes have been atheists. Edited April 2, 20187 yr by F250
February 24Feb 24 On 3/31/2018 at 8:10 AM, Aqua Buddha said: So the Pope and the Jehovah’s Witnesses are starting a band.
February 24Feb 24 Is Elon going to try to influence the Cardinals as to who should be the next Pope? Spoiler Of course he is because Elmo gonna Elmo
February 24Feb 24 1 hour ago, Beau Vine said: Keeping Lobo's love of 80s SNL alive. 1 hour ago, Vegas64 said: Is this the Pope Francis is dying thread for updates and breaking news? Well, at this point pretty much any thread about Pope Francis is probably going to be the "Pope Francis is dying thread for updates and breaking news".
February 24Feb 24 1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said: Keeping Lobo's love of 80s SNL alive. Well, at this point pretty much any thread about Pope Francis is probably going to be the "Pope Francis is dying thread for updates and breaking news". I was asking more of, is this a dailytexan (factual updates only) or a cloakroom thread (the intersectionality between the power of religion and politics).
February 28Feb 28 On 3/31/2018 at 10:47 PM, RCRanger03 said: Vatican line is that he didn't say it, and that the article misrepresented PF's words Same publication, run by a well known Italian Athiest that in 2013 pubilished Francis as having "abolished sin", and is 96 but doesn't use a recorder or take notes when he interviews just goes by his impressions and memory This is always the best way to work...plausable deniability. the Pope probably meant, "Say what you want about hell existing but it's more like an ethos"
March 1Mar 1 On 2/28/2025 at 12:21 PM, dcar00 said: This is always the best way to work...plausable deniability. the Pope probably meant, "Say what you want about hell existing but it's more like an ethos" I wonder how he feels about National Socialism.
March 2Mar 2 On 2/23/2025 at 7:04 PM, Beau Vine said: I saw father Sarducci and Dawn being escorted out of the papal visit area in Northwest San Antonio back in September of '87. I was a Jr at UT and my dad made me go. I was pretty hungover and it was hotter than blazes. Seeing FGS and Dawn was the highlight. My dad was perturbed as I recall.
March 2Mar 2 54 minutes ago, Jiggy-Z said: I saw father Sarducci and Dawn… Seeing FGS and Dawn was the highlight. My dad was perturbed as I recall. Dawn as in Tony Orlando & Dawn? Edited March 2Mar 2 by Matuka
March 2Mar 2 23 minutes ago, Matuka said: Dawn as in Tony Orlando & Dawn? Bitchin' Camaro, bitchin' Camaro Donuts on your lawn Bitchin' Camaro, bitchin' Camaro Tony Orlando and Dawn
March 3Mar 3 There’s not a Hell in the Bible. There are translations to hell, but the actual hell - not there until English translations. If you broke the rules, your soul is banished for eternity (Old Testament God).
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