March 7Mar 7 I lived in North Carolina at the time and was a senior in high school. I remember hearing about that on the national news, and being awfully disturbed at the brutality and the fact that the victims were around my age.
March 7Mar 7 Popular Post 17 minutes ago, BabaYaga said: Pops was in the law library being a scared little undergrad who came from a town with a graduating class of a dozen kids, didn't know anyone, and just studied to keep afloat When it started, my roommate & I were having burgers at the Holiday House on The Drag. Wondering what all the sirens were zooming by, we walked back through the covered passageway to the parking lot where some other “spectators” hollered at us to take cover. That’s when we heard loud gunfire from the Tower, and looked up to clearly see him leaning over the parapet shooting down. We only stayed there for a few minutes, then when Whitman moved around out of sight we drove out of the lot over to the Plantation House restaurant lot on 19th for a “safer” view. Then we drove over to our West Campus apartment to watch it on live TV. When we saw the white flag waving (by the cops on the observation deck) we ran from the apartment eastward on 24th to the Drag, down to the Co-op, then up the West Mall to the Tower, where hundreds of people had gathered & were milling around. I saw an older guy, obviously a Texas Ranger in a suit - with Stetson and a badge on his belt - walking around with a Thompson. Also saw a Daily Texan student “reporter” with a notepad in hand and somewhat comically with an old Army helmet on his head. Edited March 7Mar 7 by Armybrat
March 7Mar 7 1 hour ago, South Austin said: Like how you can’t find a decent fast-food yogurt in Austin anymore? The TCBY on MLK by campus is still there. It has been there for what, 40 years? Number of people I know who have actually gone there for yogurt: 0.0 It HAS to be a front for something.
March 7Mar 7 Popular Post 7 minutes ago, Armybrat said: When it started, my roommate & I were having burgers at the Holiday House on The Drag. Wondering what all the sirens were zooming by, we walked back through the covered passageway to the parking lot where some other “spectators” hollered at us to take cover. That’s when we heard loud gunfire from the Tower, and looked up to clearly see him leaning over the parapet shooting down. We only stayed there for a few minutes, then when Whitman moved around out of sight we drove out of the lot over to the Plantation House restaurant lot on 19th for a “safer” view. Then we drove over to our West Campus apartment to watch it on live TV. When we saw the white flag waving (by the cops on the observation deck) we ran from the apartment eastward on 24th to the Drag, down to the Co-op, then up the West Mall to the Tower, where hundreds of people had gathered & were milling around. I saw an older guy, obviously a Texas Ranger in a suit - with Stetson and a badge on his belt - walking around with a Thompson. Also saw a Daily Texan student “reporter” with a notepad in hand and somewhat comically with an old Army helmet on his head. Brat’s photo from that day.
March 7Mar 7 1 hour ago, Brisketexan said: The TCBY on MLK by campus is still there. It has been there for what, 40 years? Number of people I know who have actually gone there for yogurt: 0.0 It HAS to be a front for something. I've eaten yogurt there, once, 35 years ago (roughly). I didn't murder anybody there, I promise. Edited March 7Mar 7 by Paper_jam
March 7Mar 7 1 hour ago, Brisketexan said: The TCBY on MLK by campus is still there. It has been there for what, 40 years? Number of people I know who have actually gone there for yogurt: 0.0 It HAS to be a front for something. No fucking way. I have a mental picture of how that general area was in the late 90s and early 00s. Mr. Gattis and Taco Cabana and all that. Pizza Hut even. I thought for sure it would be either totally boarded up and full of strung out squatters or replaced with a P Terry's
March 7Mar 7 1 hour ago, Brisketexan said: The TCBY on MLK by campus is still there. It has been there for what, 40 years? Number of people I know who have actually gone there for yogurt: 0.0 It HAS to be a front for something. You know me. I ate yogurt there in 1993. So, how long have you been an owner of the TCBY on MLK?
March 7Mar 7 11 minutes ago, BurntEyes said: You know me. I ate yogurt there in 1993. For my frozen dessert needs back in those days -- which were usually related to a date or somesuch -- I took a lady to Amy's or even Baskin Robbins on the drag. A shake from Mad Dogs or Players was also in the mix. I lived a couple of blocks away from TCBY for 4 years, and I truly can't recall ever going there. And when I drive by it now....I have NEVER seen a car there or person inside getting yogurt. Makes me wish I was an owner, because whatever the scam is....it must be lucrative as hell.
March 7Mar 7 11 minutes ago, Brisketexan said: For my frozen dessert needs back in those days -- which were usually related to a date or somesuch -- I took a lady to Amy's or even Baskin Robbins on the drag. A shake from Mad Dogs or Players was also in the mix. I lived a couple of blocks away from TCBY for 4 years, and I truly can't recall ever going there. And when I drive by it now....I have NEVER seen a car there or person inside getting yogurt. Makes me wish I was an owner, because whatever the scam is....it must be lucrative as hell. So, this claim checks out.
March 7Mar 7 Drive by that place about 3 nights a week. Someone may have been murdered in it. Dark and empty. Pretty much like the above except with less light.
March 7Mar 7 40 minutes ago, chainsaw said: No fucking way. I have a mental picture of how that general area was in the late 90s and early 00s. Mr. Gattis and Taco Cabana and all that. Pizza Hut even. I thought for sure it would be either totally boarded up and full of strung out squatters or replaced with a P Terry's I miss the Wendy's, but probably for the best.
March 7Mar 7 5 minutes ago, bolverk said: So, this claim checks out. That’s some valuable dirt. Out of curiosity, I looked it up on TCAD. 6,000sf lot on the tax rolls at a $2.6 million valuation.
March 7Mar 7 1 minute ago, royiv said: That’s some valuable dirt. Out of curiosity, I looked it up on TCAD. 6,000sf lot on the tax rolls at a $2.6 million valuation. I didn't bother to look up the value but it did cross my mind to check. A side note, and back to Brisket's point, Street View allows you to go back in time by clicking the Month/Year thingy to see how it's changed over time. They offer up several shots of that empty parking lot, with it only occasionally having a car or two in it (I believe you have to go back to 2021 before you see a single one). But, back to *your* point, someone's obviously land banking by waiting for adjacent properties to come onto the market for acquisition and for assembling a larger site for future development and willing to offer up cheap rent right now just to keep it going derelict like those buildings on that upper block of Congress. Kind of a "duh" statement, I know.
March 7Mar 7 10 minutes ago, Brisketexan said: For my frozen dessert needs back in those days -- which were usually related to a date or somesuch -- I took a lady to Amy's or even Baskin Robbins on the drag. A shake from Mad Dogs or Players was also in the mix. I lived a couple of blocks away from TCBY for 4 years, and I truly can't recall ever going there. And when I drive by it now....I have NEVER seen a car there or person inside getting yogurt. Makes me wish I was an owner, because whatever the scam is....it must be lucrative as hell. Fair, it might have been 1992. I recall it because I ate at players. Probably has some under age attained beers. I walked out, saw TCBY and wondered, wtf is that place. I think it was next to the Pizza Hut/Inn. I was young, dumb and full of curiosity among other things. Walked in, actually asked what it stood for iirc, and then bought some. Never returned. So I did, in fact, go there, once. Yes, it's true, there were no cars nor anyone else inside.
March 7Mar 7 5 minutes ago, bolverk said: I didn't bother to look up the value but it did cross my mind to check. A side note, and back to Brisket's point, Street View allows you to go back in time by clicking the Month/Year thingy to see how it's changed over time. They offer up several shots of that empty parking lot, with it only occasionally having a car or two in it (I believe you have to go back to 2021 before you see a single one). But, back to *your* point, someone's obviously land banking by waiting for adjacent properties to come onto the market for acquisition and for assembling a larger site for future development and willing to offer up cheap rent right now just to keep it going derelict like those buildings on that upper block of Congress. Kind of a "duh" statement, I know. Now we’re really derailing the thread, but I got more curious-er and looked up the adjoining tracts. The same owner owns the two tracts directly adjacent down Lavaca. One is almost 10k sf on the rolls at about $4.8 million and the other is 5,200 sf at $2.6 million. So all-in, he’s got himself about 0.5 acre of CBD zoned dirt.
March 7Mar 7 5 hours ago, Armybrat said: When it started, my roommate & I were having burgers at the Holiday House on The Drag. Wondering what all the sirens were zooming by, we walked back through the covered passageway to the parking lot where some other “spectators” hollered at us to take cover. That’s when we heard loud gunfire from the Tower, and looked up to clearly see him leaning over the parapet shooting down. We only stayed there for a few minutes, then when Whitman moved around out of sight we drove out of the lot over to the Plantation House restaurant lot on 19th for a “safer” view. Then we drove over to our West Campus apartment to watch it on live TV. When we saw the white flag waving (by the cops on the observation deck) we ran from the apartment eastward on 24th to the Drag, down to the Co-op, then up the West Mall to the Tower, where hundreds of people had gathered & were milling around. I saw an older guy, obviously a Texas Ranger in a suit - with Stetson and a badge on his belt - walking around with a Thompson. Also saw a Daily Texan student “reporter” with a notepad in hand and somewhat comically with an old Army helmet on his head. I was out of town that summer after my freshman year and missed all the fun. I heard it on the radio driving across the Denison Dam to my aunt's lake house (trailer) in Colbert OK. Parents were a little scared about me returning in September, but I convinced them it was an aberration. I miss the Plantation. Wife and I liked their chicken fried steak (about once a semester.) Used to get a late night (2 AM) omelet there with my page editor after putting the Texan to bed.
July 19Jul 19 I moved to Austin in 88. I know there are chatters who have more info, but curious if this has more or not https://www.mysanantonio.com/entertainment/article/yogurt-shop-murders-hbo-release-date-20774453.php
July 21Jul 21 On 7/19/2025 at 8:13 AM, troph said: Gattis buffet for weekday lunch, players for games days, taco cabana for drunken weekend nights and TCBY for date nights. That corner got so much of my first credit card spending spree, such good memories. Sigh. Maybe I'm misreading your comments, but the murders happened at the TCBY on Anderson Lane across from Northcross Mall
July 21Jul 21 On 7/19/2025 at 8:13 AM, troph said: Gattis buffet for weekday lunch, players for games days, taco cabana for drunken weekend nights and TCBY for date nights. That corner got so much of my first credit card spending spree, such good memories. Sigh. Still convinced that particular TCBY is a front/money-laundering outfit. The property taxes alone have to be 10X their annual revenue (nobody is ever there).
July 21Jul 21 In a strange coincidence, there was also a Mr. Gatti's there at Rockwood and Anderson Lane.
July 21Jul 21 34 minutes ago, Brisketexan said: Still convinced that particular TCBY is a front/money-laundering outfit. The property taxes alone have to be 10X their annual revenue (nobody is ever there). I've wondered if that whole block bounded by Lavaca, MLK, Guadalupe and 18th is on a ground lease. I know the Greenwood Towers is that's on the SE corner. How else to explain why the old Pizza Hut still sits empty and the old retail spots fronting on MLK. *Edit* Back in the 90s, that Pizza Hut occupied part of the retail space to the east. You would order at the counter or get buffet and could then walk up a small flight of stairs to another seating area. May also have been restrooms up there. Landlord recaptured it sometime in the late 90s (?). Apparently to lease it to a vape shop or similar tenant. Edited July 21Jul 21 by ftf82
July 21Jul 21 1 minute ago, ftf82 said: I've wondered if that whole block bounded by Lavaca, MLK, Guadalupe and 18th is on a ground lease. I know the Greenwood Towers is that's on the SE corner. How else to explain why the old Pizza Hut still sits empty and the old retail spots fronting on MLK. That's actually a good possibility. I know that the lessor of Greenwood is the State of Texas (maybe even UT)....AND....that lease runs out very soon. Like, within the next few years. Was a 99 year lease.....90-something years ago. It's tough to sell a condo in Greenwood these days, for that reason.
August 6Aug 6 Texas standard with an interview with the director of HBO's The Yogurt Shop Murders today (Trying to find direct link, aired about 40 minutes into the show for today) https://www.texasstandard.org/stories/today-on-texas-standard-august-6-2025/ Edit: https://www.texasstandard.org/stories/yogurt-shop-murder-docuseries-series-austin-texas-unsolved-hbo/ Edited August 7Aug 7 by elfenix
August 6Aug 6 25 minutes ago, elfenix said: Texas standard with an interview with the director of HBO's The Yogurt Shop Murders today (Trying to find direct link, aired about 40 minutes into the show for today) https://www.texasstandard.org/stories/today-on-texas-standard-august-6-2025/ Wife and I sat next to the director (Margaret Brown) at a concert a coupla years ago. She found out we were from Austin, and wanted to talk to us about her project. She seemed rather impressed with herself and her work. And when she asked us about our memory and thoughts on the murders (we were here in Austin at the time, and recall it well)....she wasn't very interested in hearing our thoughts. I'll still check it out if I get the chance.
August 6Aug 6 11 minutes ago, Brisketexan said: Wife and I sat next to the director (Margaret Brown) at a concert a coupla years ago. She found out we were from Austin, and wanted to talk to us about her project. She seemed rather impressed with herself and her work. And when she asked us about our memory and thoughts on the murders (we were here in Austin at the time, and recall it well)....she wasn't very interested in hearing our thoughts. I'll still check it out if I get the chance. She was probably distracted by the food stuck to your face.
August 6Aug 6 7 minutes ago, Deej said: She was probably distracted by the food stuck to your face. You're confusing him with @immamac Pretty sure @Brisketexan wears his leftovers on his sleeve.
August 6Aug 6 21 minutes ago, Brisketexan said: Wife and I sat next to the director (Margaret Brown) at a concert a coupla years ago. She found out we were from Austin, and wanted to talk to us about her project. She seemed rather impressed with herself and her work. And when she asked us about our memory and thoughts on the murders (we were here in Austin at the time, and recall it well)....she wasn't very interested in hearing our thoughts. I'll still check it out if I get the chance. Maybe she was really canvassing for "talent" for her follow-up project on the swinger scene in Austin and immediately sized you up as NOT screen worthy. Edited August 6Aug 6 by orange dream
August 6Aug 6 39 minutes ago, Brisketexan said: Wife and I sat next to the director (Margaret Brown) at a concert a coupla years ago. She found out we were from Austin, and wanted to talk to us about her project. She seemed rather impressed with herself and her work. And when she asked us about our memory and thoughts on the murders (we were here in Austin at the time, and recall it well)....she wasn't very interested in hearing our thoughts. I'll still check it out if I get the chance. Linklater could probably do this documentary properly
August 6Aug 6 31 minutes ago, Deej said: She was probably distracted by the food stuck to your face. The show was at MSG in NY, so we'd just had a coupla slices of pizza for dinner before hand. So it's not out of the question. 22 minutes ago, BurntEyes said: You're confusing him with @immamac Pretty sure @Brisketexan wears his leftovers on his sleeve. Front of my shirt. Always on the front of my shirt. Or if I'm dressed for work, on my tie. My million-dollar idea is a tie made with a pattern of food stains, so whatever you do, it blends in. 22 minutes ago, orange dream said: Maybe she was really canvassing for "talent" for her follow-up project on the swinger scene in Austin and immediately sized you up as NOT screen worthy. Have you seen the kind of people into the swinger scene? I'm right in the middle of that bell curve, looks-wise. And I ain't pretty.
August 6Aug 6 6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said: Front of my shirt. Always on the front of my shirt. Or if I'm dressed for work, on my tie. My million-dollar idea is a tie made with a pattern of food stains, so whatever you do, it blends in. Well, I apologize but at least I recalled which article of clothing you preferred for your later snack storage if not the precise location.
September 26Sep 26 Solved, what a ride. https://www.kvue.com/article/news/crime/austin-yogurt-shop-murders-solved/269-10f97ed7-adc2-4514-84e5-341f18bfc8d4
September 26Sep 26 9 minutes ago, DaggerHorns said: Solved, what a ride. https://www.kvue.com/article/news/crime/austin-yogurt-shop-murders-solved/269-10f97ed7-adc2-4514-84e5-341f18bfc8d4 Yeah....we'll see. We're up to something like the 4th time they've been "solved?"
September 26Sep 26 Robert Eugene Brashers Confirmed rapist and serial killer after the fact via DNA first in 2018... one linked murder in South Carolina in 1990, two murders in Missouri 1998, and now finally confirmed for four deaths Austin 1991. Killed himself in 1999 when they noticed his family checking into a motel in a stolen care and he shot himself in the head during the standoff. Edited September 26Sep 26 by Laxtonto
September 26Sep 26 39 minutes ago, Brisketexan said: Yeah....we'll see. We're up to something like the 4th time they've been "solved?" For once in your life, give optimism a shot. Edited September 26Sep 26 by DaggerHorns Ballz
September 26Sep 26 2 minutes ago, DaggerHorns said: For once in your life, give optimism a shot. Why would I do that? That's how you end up being wrong, and these days, pessimism has me at like a 90% accuracy rate.
September 26Sep 26 I, too, hope they identified the true monster. This story has other monsters, too, including the vaunted detective who could coerce confessions from the innocent, and bootlickers who lapped up whatever they were fed by authorities.
September 26Sep 26 With as wary as everyone is about this case I would hope that along with the DNA they are also able to solidly confirm this dude’s presence in the Austin area at the time through a job, residence, etc.
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