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1 minute ago, J.R. Juniors Junior Jr. said:

So, I'm a little confused by the flow of this.  Nadler is questioning the witness.  Did the R's just have Castor make the same monologues more or less twice instead of asking questions?

hate to say it, but gohmert kind of has a point. how can a witness be a questioner? republicans have a plan and are executing it fairly effectively. 

3 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

hate to say it, but gohmert kind of has a point. how can a witness be a questioner? republicans have a plan and are executing it fairly effectively. 

I changed my comment after I started to figure out the flow better, but this is getting out of hand, per the R's strategy.

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1 minute ago, J.R. Juniors Junior Jr. said:

I changed my comment after I started to figure out the flow better, but this is getting out of hand, per the R's strategy.

agreed. nadler is no adm schiff, that's for sure.

the republicans are fully aware of how unsuited castor is for this. that's why they are being so disruptive.

5 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

hate to say it, but gohmert kind of has a point. how can a witness be a questioner? republicans have a plan and are executing it fairly effectively. 

even a Cuckoo clock, right?

Just now, jimmyjazz said:

Castor is a moron.

what's his surly handle?

55 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Hunter Biden was named to the Burisma board in 2014.  Why did Trump only become concerned about his membership in 2019?

Not to mention Ukraine was given aid in 2017 and 2018.

How you sitting in this committee and you don't know the rules?

Just now, sachick said:

How you sitting in this committee and you don't know the rules?

they know. they are just being intentionally disruptive any time counsel begins to string a couple of thoughts together and make castor look overly foolish.

I don't know that a competent attorney could have mounted a legitimate defense to these accusations, but it's abundantly clear that an incompetent attorney cannot do so.

So are the R's trying to get someone kicked out or held in contempt so they can cry about Nadler trying to fix the process?  This is over the top.  

2 minutes ago, TXSG8R said:

So are the R's trying to get someone kicked out or held in contempt so they can cry about Nadler trying to fix the process?  This is over the top.  

Yes, and yes.

1 minute ago, J.R. Juniors Junior Jr. said:

Castor in a high-pitched, whiny voice: "Come on, the President talks about very bad people?!"

seriously?

Come on, Barry?!!???

Berke is very good. Castor is not good.

I'm lost. Why is this a big deal? If you are investigating something, wouldn't you want to put names to numbers? Isn't that a big fat duh?

This is a shit show and it’s because of the Republicans behavior.

Collins should be impeached along with Trump, Pence, Jordan, and the rest of this fucking despicable gang of traitors.  Fuck that guy.  Goldman looks like he wants to rip the guy's throat out.

This female counselor has a great gig.  She's collecting $1000 an hour and doesn't have to say a word.

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As someone who has never voted D for President, the GOP behavior has been such an embarrassment in this hearing. It's amazing that this is the best the party can come up with and it's a shame the majority of Americans aren't watching this. I fully understand the Dems would probably be acting the same if the shoe was on the other foot, but man this is bad. 

Just now, jimmyjazz said:

Collins should be impeached along with Trump, Pence, Jordan, and the rest of this fucking despicable gang of traitors.  Fuck that guy.  Goldman looks like he wants to rip the guy's throat out.

I gotta say that Goldman has done a phenomenal job of staying even-keeled through all of Collins' bullshit.  It's clear that Collins is doing his damnedest to get Goldman to pop off so that Fox can air snippets showing just how "blatantly partisan" Goldman is, but so far he has been unwilling to bite.  I would have found myself going Pam Karlan on Collins' ass by now. 

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2 minutes ago, LurkingHorn said:

As someone who has never voted D for President, the GOP behavior has been such an embarrassment in this hearing. It's amazing that this is the best the party can come up with and it's a shame the majority of Americans aren't watching this. I fully understand the Dems would probably be acting the same if the shoe was on the other foot, but man this is bad. 

If the shoe was on the other foot, many D's would vote to impeach Obama. Don't both sides this, R's are a special breed of deplorable. 

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As someone who has never voted D for President, the GOP behavior has been such an embarrassment in this hearing. It's amazing that this is the best the party can come up with and it's a shame the majority of Americans aren't watching this. I fully understand the Dems would probably be acting the same if the shoe was on the other foot, but man this is bad. 
Al Franken says hi.

Consider how that was handled by the Dems.

Then consider the total fealty to Trump despite all the crimes and daily shitshow.

Both sides my ass

Not that I think it's indicative of anything (but our right wing friends do, so fair game) . . . the 'pubs counsel has some serious vocal fry going on.

45 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I don't know that a competent attorney could have mounted a legitimate defense to these accusations, but it's abundantly clear that an incompetent attorney cannot do so.

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Go to 3:05 for Short as Thurm. Baboon faced Castor reminded of this.

 

 

2 hours ago, Texas Jeff said:

Over the weekend, C-SPAN had some old videos from the Clinton impeachment.  I watched the House Judiciary committee debate and vote on one of the articles of impeachment.  The civility of that proceeding was amazing compared to what we are watching today.

The R's were in the majority but both sides were participating in the debate.  Each side was focusing on making an argument rather than just being angry at the other side.  Both sides had people saying "I recognize the point you are trying to make but here is where I disagree with you".  The R's were focused on the conduct of the president.  The D's were focused on not overturning the results of an election.  Sound familiar?

Today seems to be really different than that day.  I'm not putting blame here on either side for this -- or rather I think I am blaming both sides, but these hearings are substantially more divided and angry than those from twenty years ago.

Another both sides post....you guys are effin' clowns.

2 minutes ago, Born to Run said:

Al Franken says hi.

Consider how that was handled by the Dems.

Then consider the total fealty to Trump despite all the crimes and daily shitshow.

Both sides my ass

This is neither here nor there, but I'm thinking the committee members the Dems would send to hearings to impeach president would behave in a similar matter. I'm not familiar with the procedures ousting Franken so maybe I'm wrong. 

My ears are bleeding from the shit that they're passing back and forth right now

 

 

1 minute ago, LurkingHorn said:

This is neither here nor there, but I'm thinking the committee members the Dems would send to hearings to impeach president would behave in a similar matter. I'm not familiar with the procedures ousting Franken so maybe I'm wrong. 

Or much of anything, evidently. Franken resigned under pressure from Democrats. What you are seeing from the GOP members is a uniquely Republican problem. Democrats have others. 

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14 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

This female counselor has a great gig.  She's collecting $100 an hour and doesn't have to say a word.

$100/hr?  Did she go to Hollywood Upstairs Law School?  I haven't paid an attorney less than $350/an hour in years.  And some much more than that.

1 minute ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Or much of anything, evidently. Franken resigned under pressure from Democrats. What you are seeing from the GOP members is a uniquely Republican problem. Democrats have others. 

Yeah, starting with "they eat their own".

1 minute ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Or much of anything, evidently. Franken resigned. This is a Republican problem. Democrats have others. 

Okay, so how does that address my point that in a committee setting both sides will probably act like juveniles? I didn't bring up Franken.

Doesn't matter I guess. I'll see myself out. 

21 minutes ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

I'm lost. Why is this a big deal? If you are investigating something, wouldn't you want to put names to numbers? Isn't that a big fat duh?

If you subpoena phone records, wouldn't you want to identify every call they made?  Even if one of their calls is to their dentist, you would want to identify it. If they are calling the same number over and over again, especially around key events, you would want to identify the person directly.

What. The. Fuck. Is. This?

Bore the people watching to change the channel? 

i think that castor getting a little too comfortable with the friendlier counsel may result in further mistakes.

6 minutes ago, LurkingHorn said:

This is neither here nor there, but I'm thinking the committee members the Dems would send to hearings to impeach president would behave in a similar matter. I'm not familiar with the procedures ousting Franken so maybe I'm wrong. 

you are

3 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

$100/hr?  Did she go to Hollywood Upstairs Law School?  I haven't paid an attorney less than $350/an hour in years.  And some much more than that.

Lol.  Typo..fixed.  Thanks.

LMAO.  Castor did a "ctrl-F" count of the # times "Sondland" appeared in the report.

There's your evidence, Republicans.  Damn.  I'm embarrassed for them. 

4 minutes ago, LurkingHorn said:

Okay, so how does that address my point that in a committee setting both sides will probably act like juveniles?

Because they really don't. This is what the GOP does (since about 2008). Democrats do other stuff. I'm not defending Democratic politicians. I'm saying they aren't alike.

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13 minutes ago, LurkingHorn said:

As someone who has never voted D for President, the GOP behavior has been such an embarrassment in this hearing. It's amazing that this is the best the party can come up with and it's a shame the majority of Americans aren't watching this. I fully understand the Dems would probably be acting the same if the shoe was on the other foot, but man this is bad. 

You are right to condemn the Republicans for their party-over-country bullshit.  But I disagree that the Dems would behave the same way if Trump were a D.  They wouldn’t be leading the charge, maybe, but they wouldn’t be selling out logic, truth, and reason to defend him. 

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