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'The aid was only delayed for 55 days so it's really no big deal.'

How many Ukrainians died for lack of aid during those 55 days?

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5 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

'The aid was only delayed for 55 days so it's really no big deal.'

How many Ukrainians died for lack of aid during those 55 days?

And it's a lie. 

The Pentagon announced the plans to provide the aid on June 18.  Jennifer Williams was informed of the hold on July 3, per her testimony.  Trump released the aid on September 11.  Now, the official hold didn't go into effect until July 25, after Mark Sandy filled out the paperwork to inform Congress of the hold, but it was approved and available to be obligated prior to that.  Because of the delay, 35M of the 250M of military aid could not be obligated before the fiscal year close on 9/30, and had to be re-allocated by Congress. 

Republicans cry about witnesses not heard, White House blocks witness testimonies.

Republicans cry about lack of mesningful debate on such a critical topic, trot out Nunes and Gym Jordan who spend their time promoting debunked Russian conspiracy theories.

There isn't a shred of true patriotism left among them. 

 

Put Trump, Pence, Pompeo, Mulvaney, Giuliani, and Bolton on the stand then you can complain about witnesses. 

I'm not watching, but today is a good day. 

Doing the right thing, get it done, and then move on to throwing as many bad* Republicans out as possible. 

Focus.  Been saving my energy for 2020.

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Focus

 

*superfluous, I know.

 

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27 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

'The aid was only delayed for 55 days so it's really no big deal.'

Did GOP apologists also show gratitude to the Whistleblower for freeing up that delayed aid?

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7 minutes ago, tantric superman said:

 

 

*Not sure if this is a necessary adjective

 

it is absolutely necessary, because, as of now, i view all republicans as bad.

omg i just can't even stand it WHAT WORLD DO THESE PEOPLE LIVE IN?!? 

how the fuck did we even get here??

don't answer...i know how...

it's unbelievable, just crazy...my god how history is going to judge these days.

Debbie doing her best Pence impression looking dreamily at Byrne while he rants. (But Obama!)

2 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

it is absolutely necessary, because, as of now, i view all republicans as bad.

I should have said "superfluous". 

i think it's hilarious how all the republicans are "dear friends"

Man, if the Democrats could manage the consistence in messaging that the Republicans do, they could really be dangerous. 

I think my favorite defense is "the Democrats were just looking for something to impeach the President on from the day he took office".

So, let's assume that's true.  Maybe it would have been a good idea NOT to commit impeachable offenses when your political adversaries were paying attention?

2 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Man, if the Democrats could manage the consistence in messaging that the Republicans do, they could really be dangerous. 

Well that's hard to do, if you're not a cult member residing in an alternate reality devoid of facts or science.

2 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

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Yeah, but she's probably a lib.  She doesn't count.

2 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Yeah, but she's probably a lib.  She doesn't count.

And a Jew.

7 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Yeah, but she's probably a lib.  She doesn't count.

The statute be damned. 

4 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

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please tell me again how a bunch of lifelong Republicans in the FBI colluded with Ukraine and Hillary to frame Russia and lose her own election so that Trump would win so that then the deep state could take him down because fuck yes that all makes perfect sense to me derpity derp

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I wonder how long McCarthy will speak for. He might try to go for hours to push the impeachment vote to way late into the night. 

4 minutes ago, Pasken said:

I wonder how long McCarthy will speak for. He might try to go for hours to push the impeachment vote to way late into the night. 

The longer he speaks, the less time other members have. Debate is limited in time by rule. That's what they voted on yesterday in the Rules Committee.

Just now, David Dennison said:

The longer he speaks, the less time other members have. Debate is limited in time by rule. That's what they voted on yesterday in the Rules Committee.

That doesn't apply to the party leaders who will speak last. He can go as long as he wants.

Just now, Pasken said:

That doesn't apply to the party leaders who will speak last. He can go as long as he wants.

Or until he has to pee.

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

Or until he has to pee.

He should get one of these

 

Just now, Hugo Stiglitz said:

This point doesn’t get made enough by democrats. 

YEP.  Even I was willing to give him a shot, because what choice did we have, but it became obvious so quickly that he was who we thought he was.  Very quickly it was this:

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See, this guy is still boring but he doesn't sound robotic like that earlier clerk. 

T. Ulrich Brechbuhl?

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1 minute ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Doug Collins shouting time. 

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hold my beer

13 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

One nation indivisible. Fuck your "under God."

Half of them are referring to Trump. 

It's like the screen is ghosting with those two guys wearing almost the same tie as Collins, same lapel pin, one has glasses. They're a cult. 

2 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

It's like the screen is ghosting with those two guys wearing almost the same tie as Collins, same lapel pin, one has glasses. They're a cult. 

Give it time, the one with the glasses will ditch them because You-Know-Who doesn't wear them.

The more Nadler speaks, the more the public tunes out.  He has no charisma and conveys no gravitas.

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

The more Nadler speaks, the more the public tunes out.  He has no charisma and conveys no gravitas.

True, but to be fair, I'm pretty sure most of the public tuned out a long time ago.  I've followed this shit closely since the beginning and I have watched maybe an hour of the judiciary hearings and none of the full house hearings.  The Dems suck at it and the Rs are fucking liars.  Just vote and get it done with.

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

The more Nadler speaks, the more the public tunes out.  He has no charisma and conveys no gravitas.

Then we are lazy. I don't disagree with your assessment of his speaking skills and that is an area where Schiff is solid. However, we have become poor listeners who do not substantially nor consistently weigh the worth of the words our leaders speak.

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