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  • I voted for Trump/Against Hilary Clinton.   He should be impeached for: Extortion of a foreign government by withholding military assistance to an ally (and benefitting Russia) in exchange

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    I'm a couple pages back in this fast-moving thread, but I wanted to respond to this.   I'm pretty close to you in demographics, and I was also a child who echoed his parents' pro-Reagan stance, a

  • Unreal. Biden’s son can take home $1m a year from a Ukrainian company he knows nothing about...but our president acts like the CEO of a company with leverage in cutting deals and this shit happens?

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Does Turner not understand Vindman's title and responsibilities?

I believe they know-I also believe  it is to have the appearance that ‘Deep State’ or rogue employees were subverting the President’s foreign policy and place them in the viewer’s mind (on Fox) that they are traitors. That’s how they’ll get around Vindman’s military bona fides and William’s testimony. 

It’s all for Fox and the irony of Rudy being rogue and unregistered as a foreign agent is never stated. 

Chain of command squabbles incoming.

1 hour ago, WhatTheBuck said:

How is it an indictment of Vindman that the Ukrainians like him?

Because one of the Right-Wing talking points is that Vindman has 'dual loyalty' and is working with the Ukrainians (who have the server!) against Donald Trump.

Was that supposed to be some huge point scored there, that Vindman may have changed his mind on verbiage to ‘demand’?

On 11/8/2019 at 4:19 PM, Tuco said:

FYI, this is a pretty good article on Solomon and the Hill. 

ProPublica

 

 

The Hill probably deserves its own thread, but here is another article that discusses the cozy relationship its owner has with Trump and Giuliani, and how he pushed to elevate Solomon. The Hill isn't going to change with Solomon's departure. To keep it topical, here is a Vindman quote:

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One, Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, said of one of Solomon's stories, "I think all the key elements were false." Pressed further on the matter by Rep. Lee Zeldin, a New York Republican, Vindman said, "I haven't looked at the article in quite some time, but you know, his grammar might have been right." 

 

My entire case is based on that little short video excerpt you've seen run on cable news. What do you have to say to that?

“I won’t tweet it, I’ll just say it on camera so Fox and Friends doesn’t get mad at me.”


He’s an active-duty member of the armed services.  He’s probably supposed to wear it.  

I don't know that your constituents feel that way, Elise. 

3 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

He’s an active-duty member of the armed services.  He’s probably supposed to wear it.  

And regardless, he's earned it.  If wants to wear it to pick up chicks, cool.  If he wants to wear it to get bumped to first class on airplaines, cool. And if he wants to wear it to impeach the President, that's cool too.  He's earned it, Admiral Bonespurs. 

Because Obama didn't give aide, that makes it okay for Trump to use aide as leverage to extort political favors. (This, of course, after he removed support for Ukraine from the GOP platform during the convention.)

41 minutes ago, kevwun said:

According to Republican logic, you can kill someone as long as you don't refer to it as murder.

Swalwell reads the Surl?

Wait . . . Donald Trump wants us to believe he doesn't know who Bill Taylor is, when in fact he appointed Taylor to be the Ambassador to Ukraine after recalling Marie Yavonovich from that same post?  

Is that what he's saying?

Gaslight much?  Words do not suffice in illuminating how much I hate our President.

2 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Swalwell reads the Surl?

Holy shit!

I believe Will Hurd is the love child of Al Franken and Lester Holt:

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3 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Swalwell reads the Surl?

Just reads? No way. He posts, too.

7 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Swalwell reads the Surl?

He’s Brisket.  And Radcliffe is TTom

Gym Jordan is bound and determined to reveal the fact that he has an IQ of 85.  Jesus Christ, dude.  Shut the fuck up, for your own sake.

In all seriousness, Jordan is so obviously one of the worst human beings to hold public office currently in this country.  The perfect mix of loud, stupid, and immoral.  

Vindman corrects Jordan's misinterpretation of events, and Jordan has the fucking gall to have a "ooohhhhh so THAT'S how it all went down" tone.  Piece of shit.

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Just now, jimmyjazz said:

Gym Jordan is bound and determined to reveal the fact that he has an IQ of 85.  Jesus Christ, dude.  Shut the fuck up, for your own sake.

That's because his audience has an average IQ of 65.  He's the Idiot Prince to Trump's Idiot King ambitions. 

 

Only a Trumpkin could fall for Jordan’s bullshit.   Gotdamn I wish my cliental was this stupid and fell for 2nd grade logic arguments like that.

Hey look coin in my hand.  (Drops coin)   Where did the coin go?  Magic!

And the President of the United States calls Adam Schiff "Adam Schitt." What's your point, Jim?

Hillary won 3,000,000 more votes than Trump did, Jimmy. What do you and Trump say about her?

Dance, monkey, dance. 

Man, Jim Jordan has a punchable face and demeanor. How does he even have conversations with anyone without it turning into a fistfight?

1 minute ago, FondrenRoad said:

Man, Jim Jordan has a punchable face and demeanor. How does he even have conversations with anyone without it turning into a fistfight?

Well, there is the fact that he could probably beat the shit out of 95% of the people he meets.  He's a scumbag, but I'm not starting shit with a former national champion caliber wrestler. 

1 minute ago, Tuco said:

Well, there is the fact that he could probably beat the shit out of 95% of the people he meets.  He's a scumbag, but I'm not starting shit with a former national champion caliber wrestler. 

Simple.  Just knock his ass out before he gets a hold of you.  But, yeah, if a wrestler gets a non wrestler in a hold, the non wrestler is fucked. 

2 minutes ago, Tuco said:

Well, there is the fact that he could probably beat the shit out of 95% of the people he meets.  He's a scumbag, but I'm not starting shit with a former national champion caliber wrestler. 

He's 55. Wait another 5 or 10 years then. Plus that is what bar stools are for in the first place. They are the great equalizer. 

I like Moloney here...lets debunk all these stupid talking points.  Not that it’ll matter to some, but get it out there.  

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3 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Simple.  Just knock his ass out before he gets a hold of you.  But, yeah, if a wrestler gets a non wrestler in a hold, the non wrestler is fucked. 

What...proper fucked?

1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

I'll take synonyms for $500 Alex.

 

1 hour ago, Horn Dog said:

Ratcliffe-  Sure there was an offer of exchange of something of value in exchange for something else, but bribery?  Come on!

"First they said it was a Psittaciformes, then they said it was a Macaw...and NOW they're calling it a parrot.  I mean come on!"

Wow that was masterfully done. 

"Here, right matters."

let's hope this is still true

8 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Simple.  Just knock his ass out before he gets a hold of you.  But, yeah, if a wrestler gets a non wrestler in a hold, the non wrestler is fucked. 

If anyone deserves a kick in the balls, it's Gym Jordan.

49 minutes ago, Tuco said:

And regardless, he's earned it.  If wants to wear it to pick up chicks, cool.  If he wants to wear it to get bumped to first class on airplaines, cool. And if he wants to wear it to impeach the President, that's cool too.  He's earned it, Admiral cadet Bonespurs. 

fify.

6 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

If anyone deserves a kick in the balls, it's Gym Jordan.

I figure I'd just tell him I jerk it to his players in the shower.  That should back him off. 

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