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Week 2, 2024: Texas at Michigan
I hope so….but they are getting rain Friday and a frontal passage….so north wind on Saturday, possibly slick field turf. And knowing those cheating fucks….they’ll probably run sprinklers out there to irrigate plastic. Anything to slow us down.
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2024 Fall Camp Thread - Bubble Wrap ALL THE RB
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I have some 2002 pieces as well….money wise, they’re about the same price as the giant beats. Extremely popular and for good reason. One thing I have noticed is Paiste cymbals run very consistent weight wise….within 10-20 grams of each other. You can feel more confident buying sight unseen and good chance you get the sound you want. Zildjian on the other hand….wild weight variances for any given model. I mean hundreds of grams. For example, that k custom brilliant ride I have, you can get that identical cymbal and it might weigh 2750…and the next one weighs almost 3100. Much more difficult to buy without the weight disclosed….or you can hear it in person before buying- The Drums Pron Thread
That k custom I have is a 20” “brilliant” which is quite heavy at almost 3000 grams. It’s my heavy ride with an absolute clear and piercing bell. The ride right above it is a paiste Masters 22” thin crash/ride…..and it’s quite a bit more money than the k custom. Cool cymbal tho….that one would work for jazz…the k custom not so much. The paiste has a crazy cool, almost gong like sound when you hit it and it opens up fully- The Drums Pron Thread
Setups are really subjective….currently, I’m 2 crashes, 2 rides and the hats, snare, toms, kicks pedals pretty conventional positioning. Subject to change.- The Drums Pron Thread
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I got the itch to add a 14 tom but have struck out finding anything in metallic silver. So….I came across this one and decided I’d add an “orphan” to the set. It’s a 14x10 rack, in outer oak veneer. It was built September 1979 and it has the internal “tone control” muffler which so far I really like. We’ll see if it stays rattle free…but so far so good. I’m running it in a low profile Pearl snare stand.- The Drums Pron Thread
I don’t dismiss the entire thing….because there are people that believe it. In fact, Tama was compelled enough to believe, or enough market forces were being applied…,but they made a tom rack system that attaches to their kick drum with no drilling at all IIRC. They claim the best of both worlds. It does look pretty slick, just not sure I believe the tonal difference hype- The Drums Pron Thread
Some aficionados would say yes and only buy virgins, they’ll say it resonates more “purely”. I have both and can’t tell a difference. My renown is virgin….the phonic is drilled, with a huge weighty mount, then a massive mount rod goes into the kick…..that phonic resonates the most pure kick sound I’ve ever heard. My opinion…snake oil- The Drums Pron Thread
Well, it just means it’s not drilled for a mount. For example, Gretsch just calls their 22x14 “virgin” kick a “no-mount” on their spec sheet. But….if you go to Sweetwaters website for their advertisement of that same kick, Sweetwater will call it a “virgin” kick. So the “virgin” description is used in the industry somewhat- The Drums Pron Thread
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I finally got the renowns out of the drum room and the phonics situated and tuned. I wasn’t for sure initially, but I’m really not missing the extra 14 floor the renowns had at all. I have more room 2 up 1 down and it’s easier not having to turn so far to reach the 16. These fuckers rumble in the jungle- The Drums Pron Thread
You’ll get great advice. Scenario A….try to buy local or known party. If that doesn’t work, and you still want vintage, even shipped….request pics of the shells bearing edges and interiors. If a seller will not do that….move on down the road. They probably have something to hide- The Drums Pron Thread
Especially buying vintage….be careful. This phonic i just bought, the 16 floor has a crack in an inner ply. It does not affect the way it sounds because it sounds orgasmic and you’d never know looking at it because it’s fucking beautiful….but still pisses me off none the less. Besides some online pics, I bought sight unseen. And they were shipped from Germany. Not sure if the shipper did it or the seller was not truthful, but I bitched and got a partial refund.- Rush
Rip…this one is for you. Steve on a massive Sonor Phonic kit in 1983- The Drums Pron Thread
Sonor introduced this 9 ply phonic beech shell in 1975 for their centennial anniversary….and those Germans did not mess around. They decided to bring a bazooka to a knife fight. This is the phonic 12 vs renown 12- The Drums Pron Thread
Thanks! The sizes are 22x14, 12x8, 13x9, 16x16….but as I know you know, they sound MUCH deeper and larger than their dimensions. Super heavy, over-engineered pieces. Not exactly gig friendly lol….but oh that sound. I’m having a lot of fun just messing with different tunings…they have a wide range. Those racks tuned high are something else, never heard that sound before in person out of a drum- The Drums Pron Thread
I just got this set…..it’s a 1986 Sonor Phonic in metallic silver wrap. 22-12-13-16 They’re a 9 ply German beechwood (cut from a grove in the 1970s) and they’re some of the sweetest sounding drums ever made. Gods of thunder.- Game Week 10: Texas at TCU
- Texas opens as a 5 point favorite v Oklahoma
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Wow…way to go Tommy! I took a look thru their website, looks like a nice family owned business. Opened in 1978 I think. Was cruising thru the pics section…and sure looked like Chris Layton in one of the photos.- The Drums Pron Thread
It depends on which IC, Jimmy. They make 3 singles (IC200, IC600, IC900) The iC200 is like $79, the IC600 $149 and IC900 $249. The IC900 is the one that butts heads with DW5000 in the market place….pretty much exact same price. I think I paid $69 for my IC200 5 years ago and it’s still going strong….have done zero maintenance. Not even a lube. But it is squeaking now….time to break out the oil- The Drums Pron Thread
She’s not going to notice a difference, they are very similar as their lineage is the same. But I’m a bit surprised they have brought up parts failing on the DW5000 as a selling point….I really am not aware of those breaking prematurely or proprietary parts being difficult to source. Interesting. I have always considered the 5000 pretty bulletproof.- The Drums Pron Thread
Nooo…you screwed up, shoulda got the DW lol I’m kidding, they’re both great. I still have an iron cobra 200 I’ve had for years…it’s been on multiple kits and is on my Roland set now. The Tama terms are “power glide” (accelerator equivalent) and “rolling glide” (turbo equivalent). Both the Tama and DW are descendants of the Camco Pedal from the 1960s. But it primarily used a strap drive. DW introduced the double chain i believe in the early 80s and that really took off in the industry.- The Drums Pron Thread
It will have massive power….the beater that comes with these is very heavy. It wallops the drum with not a lot of effort. I took the beater off and weighed it versus my pearl eliminator beater (87 grams) and another DW “control” beater (90 grams)….. the DW 5000 beater was 103 grams. I swapped the pearl beater onto the 5000 and it was a little quieter and definitely faster. I might leave it like that. The 103gram beater is a behemoth - The Drums Pron Thread
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