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Ag with kids

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  1. I didn't say the parties were the drivers of common interests. But, they're the closest proxy we have (i.e. the result). BTW, I agree that ideas should matter. Can you tell me what other proxy we have for those ideas? Since we only have the parties and candidates that are available? Oh...and the GOP isn't anti-2nd Amendment, or pro-big government... Yeah, there are some that are anti-free trade. Of course, did we have "free trade" prior to 2025?
  2. I talked about this earlier. https://surlyhorns.com/board/topic/38923-the-leopards-eating-faces-and-unlubed-dildo-of-consequences-thread/page/272/#comment-7489160 Where do you delineate geographically? In rural areas, it's probably not hard. Most rural areas are conservative (we've all seen the maps). But, there are obviously fewer people in larger areas of land. However, when you get to urban/suburban areas, it isn't as easy. Especially if you're trying to be "FAIR" in your representation. So, if you're trying to be "FAIR", then you still would have weird-looking districts to keep like-minded people in districts so they would have a representative that votes mostly the way they want (bozo's "communities of interest"). And people all have numerous "communities of interest". I live on NPI so I have different views on local issues than someone that lives up in the panhandle. But, we both probably have the same views on statewide or federal issues. This is not a black/white issue. BTW, it doesn't even have to be Republican/Democrat. Maybe there could be shit tons of parties like the Euros have...it would still be difficult. I'm just pointing out that here in the US, we have 2 parties. I'm not saying that's good or bad...just that it is the reality.
  3. Well, pure democracy sucks worse...
  4. I don't necessarily agree with you. But, I also don't necessarily disagree with you, either. Yes, party safe seats could end up with poor representation... As I've said ad nauseam, I think people should be represented by a Representative who most closely mirrors their political views. Conservative areas should have conservative representatives. Liberal areas should have liberal representatives. Moderate areas should have moderate representatives. You know...representative democracy. But, we have 435 US House Representatives....and 330 million people. And conservatives, liberals, and moderates don't always congregate in separate areas. And communities of interest aren't neatly delineated, unfortunately....well, in urban/suburban areas for sure... You said in another post: I agree with you that in an idealized world, this would be good. But we don't live in one. So, maybe we need to expand Congress...maybe more representatives instead of just 435. And I think that would be a great idea. Then you could get closer to your view that "compact districts composed of actual places where people have things in common" could be better served by representative democracy. But, until then, I stick by my position.
  5. I've already stated my position on this multiple times. You're trying to employ the "slippery slope" argument. I think that the person who represents a district should represent the majority of the people in the district. The whole concept of representative government.
  6. Maybe he met up with Hillary Clinton to discuss how to be a carpetbagger in a new state?
  7. So... California was way more gerrymandered than Texas is currently. California decided to get MORE gerrymandered. California did this because Texas wanted to gerrymander. Texas wanted to gerrymander to be closer to the CURRENT California level, even though, with the new Texas maps, they would still be less gerrymandered than California CURRENTLY is. So, perhaps, the Democrats in California should have stopped their gerrymandering earlier to be more fair to the Republicans in the state. However, I'm sure that, since you pinged me, you're blaming the Republicans for this.
  8. Sigh...You keep on bringing this up... But, how are you going to define your "community of interest"? Your household? Your street? Your neighborhood? Your suburb area? Your town/city? Your metro area? Your county? Your regional area in the state? Your state? Your regional area in the country? Your country? Your continent? ALL of those could be "communities of interest" If you want to define it at one of the the lowest levels (which is what it appears you want to do), then we can't do that with 435 US Representatives (or for TX, 150 Reps and 31 Senators). Because there are just too many "communities of interest" at those levels. BTW, people don't cooperate politically with "communities of interest". Most areas have people who care closely about lots of local issues, but disagree massively about wider issues. How do you propose reconciling those differences? BTW, by "most areas", I meant you could attach that definition to any one of those areas I listed above...even including the household...
  9. Ok? And? Your map is showing that Red states are less gerrymandered than Blue states... Hint: Green is Very gerrymandered...Red is less gerrymandered. Eight of those states in your pic are Red states. And I will disagree with Maryland since they're 7-1 Democrat (88%)...
  10. No... They went to public schools in Texas...but one of the GOOD parts of Texas.
  11. I also have 22 grandkids...
  12. You realize that most of those "gerrymandered" states only have 1 to 2 representatives, right? And that goes to both the right and the left. Vermont is not gerrymandered because it's 100% Democrat. It only has 1 representative. It's either 100% Democrat or 100% Republican. Since most of their citizens lean Democratic, their Representation is 1-0 Dem. Similarly, North Dakota only has 1 representative is not gerrymandered because it's 100% Republican. It only has 1 representative. It's either 100% Democrat or 100% Republican. Since most of their citizens lean Republican, their Representation is 1-0 Rep. It's not rocket surgery...
  13. I only try to discuss the subjects that have been presented to me. Bozo hasn't brought the taxation system of Texas up. I have not stated whether I think the current Texas taxing system is optimal or good. That is a different discussion that should be a different thread.
  14. JFC...yeah...it was... Raising 9 kids was a shit ton of work. But, I got them all to adulthood. And they're all good kids.
  15. Meh... I've done OK in life.
  16. Why would this be a joke? Democrat run states are more gerrymandered than Republican run states.
  17. And you're one of the reasons why this site is nothing but a burnt orange democratunderground echo chamber. Congrats, I guess???
  18. Meh... I changed it from my avatar that was on shaggy/hornfans that was kind of a joke on my school... I'll change it so that the sand will get out of your vag...
  19. I have 9 kids. That's where it comes from. hth
  20. I don't like how many states have apportioned their voting structure. HOWEVER, I also don't think that the right should acquiesce to the fact that the left has "gerrymandered" or "partisan apportioned" their legislatures to be more partisan than the right. And are now demanding "fairness"... The right should return the favor and get on an even field and THEN negotiate to change things. Otherwise, they're doing every election with AT LEAST one hand tied behind their back Hell, blue states are apportioned at 79% Democrat. Red states are at 76% Republican. IF Texas gets 5 more seats, the red states STILL won't be at 79%. Tell YOUR side to change first since you don't like the way the districts are set up... BTW, to answer your original question...Yes, I'm OK. Thanks for asking.
  21. They have one... And their "nonpartisan" redistricting commission gerrymandered the state to 83%-17% when the state votes 59%-39%...
  22. My consideration of party support had to do with how a state voted. CA voted Harris 58.47% Trump 38.33%. Their legislature should be close to representing that ratio. However, it's currently 83%-17% A state that votes 55-65%-45-35% for X party should have a state legislature and US House representation somewhere around those values. Unfortunately, you will NEVER be able to do a NON gerrymandered map. Look at every single state - the rural areas are bright red. WHY? Because they have "conservative values" (however you want to define those)... But, then you get to the urban areas and that's why you have the "salamanders" crawling all over them. And you want, I forgot what you called it, but I think "communities of interest" or something like that to be linked. I don't think I ever argued against that. People in urban or even suburban areas don't live where they live to fit some type of good "district map"... My whole point has been that the legislature makeup should match the voting makeup. How do you propose that districts be drawn up that ONLY reflect "communities of interest" and yet allow the majority in the state to have their voting "power" be reflected in a way that actually works?
  23. California has their Congressional representation at 83% Democrat/17% Republican. Illinois has it at 82%/18%. New York is at 73%/27%. All 3 have now discussed doing ADDITIONAL gerrymandering in response to the Texas effort. All of those states vote around 58%-55% Democrat. Spare me your outrage.... And damn you for dragging me back here to talk about politics...
  24. No problem. Paul's is legit good! You'll be happy. It's not a tourist place. It's a locals' place...
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