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Tonesky

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  1. Tonesky replied to SmokeyBear1861's topic in Cloak Room
    I'm just happy not to get another Fuck You negative rep. There is hope after all.
  2. Tonesky replied to SmokeyBear1861's topic in Cloak Room
    Funny how no one wants to engage on the fact that Jordan occupies Palestinian territory at least as much as Israel does. Just what superior right does the Hashemite Kingdom have to Palestine?
  3. Tonesky replied to SmokeyBear1861's topic in Cloak Room
    You are being glib. We already have lots of Palestinian immigrants and I am more than OK with more. In the context of a comprehensive settlement, I would be fine with a much larger number. And, I expect it will cause Surly hysteria, but in the context of a comprehensive settlement two State settlement, I expect Israel would accept return of a some number of refugees as well.
  4. Tonesky replied to SmokeyBear1861's topic in Cloak Room
    Definitely not at the moment. And, I get no joy in it.
  5. Tonesky replied to SmokeyBear1861's topic in Cloak Room
    I've got about 525 posts and fewer than 25 on this board in the past week. It isn't complicated. Click on my name, and then (at top right) on "see their activity." Mostly Football and Food & Travel threads. Peace.
  6. Tonesky replied to SmokeyBear1861's topic in Cloak Room
    Still right on point - there would be no continuing sympathy for the Palestinian refugees living miserable lives in Syria, Lebanon, and Jordan.
  7. Tonesky replied to SmokeyBear1861's topic in Cloak Room
    Precisely, the world cares (negatively) about Israel more than it actually sympathizes with the Palestinians.
  8. Tonesky replied to SmokeyBear1861's topic in Cloak Room
    Horseshit. I explicitly said that I don't suggest Palestinian sympathy is anti-Semitism. Israel has been singled out for disparate treatment as long as it has existed. Again, what about Jordan's behavior towards "Palestine?" They stole far more land than Israel is accused of stealing. And, they treat the Palestinians like shit. If the refugees in Jordan began regular terrorist attacks on the King and things he cares about, how do you think he would respond? But, never a word about Jordan. The difference must be that we don't care as much about those Palestinians.
  9. They were chanting “We don’t want two States; we want ‘48!” Translation: One Palestine (without Jews), from the river to the sea.
  10. Tonesky replied to SmokeyBear1861's topic in Cloak Room
    I did not remotely state that the only plausible explanation for sympathizing with the Palestinian plight is anti-Semitism. I detest Netanyahu and Likud. I am highly critical of Israeli policy. I am sympathetic to the Palestinians. But, I recognize that much so called Palestinian sympathy includes a good dose of anti-Semitism, including singling out Israel for disparate attention, grievance, and elimination. Why, for example, does this conversation never include demand that the stolen land of Jordan be returned to the Palestinians?
  11. Tonesky replied to SmokeyBear1861's topic in Cloak Room
    Oh come on, the the USA is not a "host" country, and the Palestinians living in the USA (and other countries) are not refugees. I am referring to the Palestinians, who remain refugees, including those in Jordan, Lebanon, and other "host" countries, who desire they remain perpetual refugees.
  12. Tonesky replied to SmokeyBear1861's topic in Cloak Room
    You fucking terrorist apologist piece of shit. Fuck off. Oh, I feel real smart and superior now.
  13. Tonesky replied to SmokeyBear1861's topic in Cloak Room
    I’ve never posted under any other name on this site or its predecessors.
  14. Tonesky replied to SmokeyBear1861's topic in Cloak Room
    So, what is the statute of limitations? The Palestinians are the only refugees with a perpetual status, who both refuse to, and are refused by, their host countries to make a new life. What about them and their status is so different than all other refugee populations ever? Oh that's right, its the Jews....
  15. Tonesky replied to SmokeyBear1861's topic in Cloak Room
    Totally aggy to pick the beginning date the facilitates your desired conclusion. There was never a Palestine. They had no state taken from them. Yes, some fled under duress, but most left as instructed by the surrounding Arab states, who promised they could return after we destroy Israel. Conversely, there were Jews there before the Zionists arrived, as in, pretty much forever - except of course, for those ethnically cleansed, as you would say. But, nice of you to basically admit your end game - a single Palestinian state. I may continue to poke at you for sport, but fuck you to the end of time.
  16. Tonesky replied to SmokeyBear1861's topic in Cloak Room
    Just drove past the Consulate General of Israel in Houston, where hundreds are gathering in protest. The chant: "We don't want two states; we want '48." Not hard to interpret that Palestinians (not just Hamas, et al) believe Israel is illegitimate and that there should be a single Palestinian state from the river to the sea..... But, I am sure that is a new belief, forced upon them by years of Israeli oppression.
  17. Tonesky replied to SmokeyBear1861's topic in Cloak Room
    Not trying to be a dick. Maybe there is an obvious example I am unable to recall. Please share historical successful examples of this.
  18. Tonesky replied to SmokeyBear1861's topic in Cloak Room
    Except that it wasn't. The only "evidence" of such "devastation" was from Hamas, which you blindly accepted as accurate. Your reaction was less based on the initial available information, than on your bias. I own my bias favoring Israel (while detesting Netanyahu, and acknowledging the contribution of government policy and so called settlers). Maybe you should own your bias favoring Hamas and terrorism.
  19. Tonesky replied to SmokeyBear1861's topic in Cloak Room
    Except that it wasn’t.
  20. New Directv Stream UI (on Roku) sucks. Thank you for listening. I feel much better now.
  21. Tonesky replied to SmokeyBear1861's topic in Cloak Room
    I have never suggested Israel is without sin, but none of this remotely adds up to a history that suggests targeting a hospital with a missile - intentionally murdering hundreds of civilians.
  22. Tonesky replied to SmokeyBear1861's topic in Cloak Room
    So, even with a rocket failure, Hamas/PIJ achieves its objective....
  23. I assume it depends on the launch location. If far north near the Israeli border, doubtful. If launched further south, possible?
  24. Tonesky replied to SmokeyBear1861's topic in Cloak Room
    No, I am objective. I support Israel, but not blindly.
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