First 2 games couldn't have gone much better. Beat down of OSU and Bama not looking great in a win. I'm sure the story will be the great SEC defensive battle, but whatever. Now time to pull for FSU.
I don’t think so. should actually help if the committee is picking between Texas and bama. If the decide to include Texas and bama, it might affect seeding, but that’s least of worries
There’s no argument with Georgia if they win today and get a spot. I’d rather be in an argument with champ bama and non champ Georgia vs not being in the discussion at all. FSU loss makes it all clean, but we want bama to win so we have other paths other than fsu loss
Georgia/sec homers and doom and gloom longhorns seem to be the only ones with this perspective. Chance of Texas getting in w bama win is much higher than non champ Georgia going in in front of Texas. I’m not saying it’s zero chance of 2 sec teams with dumb ass committee, but I don’t see it and very few are suggesting it in a situation with 5 deserving champs.
Bama win or fsu loss and we are probably in. Definitely in with fsu loss. Probably in with bama win. Georgia win just takes a spot and devalues our win over bama, it only hurts Texas chances. Unless you believe bama and Georgia are both in. Anything possible with committee, but I haven’t seen anyone propose a non champ Georgia going in over champ Texas.
Pretty much everybody in the media is saying Texas is in with a bama win and fsu win. Either by excluding bama/sec or putting bama and Texas in and booting fsu. These aren’t Texas homers, seems like the the most common take. Unprecedented times. I’d rather fsu loses and nothing else matters. Georgia is out if they lose.
Because Washington's SOS is so good? If Texas does make it in, I think Oregon is a better matchup. So I'd rather Oregon win. But enjoying the beatdown so far.
The only relevant consideration here for Texas is potential playoff matchup. This is the only P5 CCG game this weekend where the outcome doesn't measurably affect Texas playoff chances. PAC 12 winner is 99% in. That said, I'd rather Texas play Oregon rather than Washington in the playoffs for lots of reasons. But my attitude for this game is "whatever".
The clearest path is FSU (or Mich) losing and then it makes zero difference what the outcome of the PAC12 game is. You could even argue it's better for Washington to win in that scenario if there were concerns about a another 1 loss team in the mix (even though a 1 loss non-champ would almost certainly be out).
Let's hope Louisville comes in motivated. I haven't seen them play this year, but they have won some games. If they win, they will be losing a cut of the $6m conference payout the ACC would have received w/ FSU making the playoffs.
It keeps coming back to "best team" vs. "most deserving team". FSU is clearly not one of the 4 best teams without their QB, but very deserving as an undefeated P5 champ. I could live with the committee putting a priority over "deserving" over "best" (or the other way around), but it's maddening that they have no consistency from team to team. Oregon is clearly the least deserving of the 1 loss teams, but the committee views them as the best. I can live with that, Oregon has won the eye test. But if you want to use "best" as the main criteria, it should be applied to all contenders and FSU should be out.
With the exception of the Pirate back in the day, I think I'd have to rank Gundy as my favorite Big 12 coaching personality. And he's a solid coach. That said, fuck him this weekend.
Yep. Sure, there is some extra drama when a single game can knock you out of the running, but that's not a good thing for the sport. Having more teams/fans in the running means more people care about more games (especially late in the year). With Texas still in the mix, that had me watching all kinds of games I'd normally never tune into. How this bowl system and then 2-4 team playoff thing has persisted so long is hard to wrap your head around. Billions of $'s lost that can never be recouped.
It's ironic that the majority of Texas fans seem to be thinking this way while the majority of Bama fans are thinking Bama is out under this scenario. Everyone seems pretty sure that they are doomed.
This is exactly where I'm at. The committee is certainly dreading this scenario more than any other, but I think they would lean Texas unless Bama looked really good and Texas looked bad in wins. Most of the models lean Texas in this scenario and most of the media is saying Texas in this scenario. It might be delusional and it's far from certain, but it seems like the most common line of thinking (even from the Bama/SEC homers). I think the ESPN model has this right, it's around 60% chance Texas gets in over Bama in this situation.
I think it's more likely undefeated FSU slides than 1 loss Oregon, but I don't think either is happening in that scenario. More likely Bama or Texas gets screwed (which I see as a toss up). FSU is the clear outlier in the top 8 after losing their QB.
Besides the entertainment and $'s associated with a big game early in the season, I think it does make the team better (which hopefully increases the odds of winning the "easier" conference games the rest of the year). Kids/coaches are more motivated over the spring/summer when you know you have an early game with Bama/Michigan/Etc.. Playing a good team early can also highlight deficiencies that a cupcake may not expose. With the 12 team playoff, I think these games make more sense going forward than they have historically.
The only thing the tOUS ranking indicates is that our chances of jumping champ Oregon are close to zero. There is no situation where tOSU is still in front of a conference champ on Sunday unless that champ is OKstate, Iowa, or Louisville (none of which will have a playoff spot). It's just to ensure tOSU gets the spot if all choas breaks loose.
Um no... The best case for a non-champ (georgia) has already be laid out well earlier in this thread and it's pretty clear there is no case or precedent that would put them in over a Texas, Oregon, Bama. With a committee making decisions at their whim, I'm not one of the people saying it's not possible, just that the chance of that happening is much smaller than chance of us benefitting from Bama/Oregon winning. It's been beat to death, but non-champs with same records as champs have never gotten a spot, even when the champ has a much worse resume (which would not be the case if comparing Texas to Georgia or Washington).