Everything posted by quigley
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Tell me about ou
Not surprised OU's in the portal for OL. I expect that they may take one more even. Where did you see he's going to OU?
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2022 Transfer Thread - It's the End of the World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)
He committed to OU first and was either #1 or 2 on the Sooners board (Manning at Oregon was the other top CB). He's a good one.
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Non-Texas Recruiting 2022
I'm not doubting any of this took place. I'm wondering if it's the same DeSean Brown. The link provides date of birth for the defendant is Oct 2003. This would be consistent with the OSU signees' approximate age, so that's pointing towards it being the same guy. Does this mean no jail time? If so, could he enroll in college?
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Non-Texas Recruiting 2022
Yeah, that's just a wasted spot. The names are not an exact match, and the screencaps leave off any other identifying data. I'm reserving judgement here.
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OU Recruiting 2022: Abnormal Mutations in OUDNA
❤️ All love my friend. Substance over style I find using quotes useful, but reading between them hard. Was using bold make it easier to read. Open to suggestions.
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OU Recruiting 2022: Abnormal Mutations in OUDNA
They are both really fast, relatively tall, S/LB types that fit Venables system REALLY well. I wouldn't be surprised if neither play much next year, but I can see a situation where they could be on the field together.
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OU Recruiting 2022: Abnormal Mutations in OUDNA
Riley would've ended up with a higher rated class than Venables. Riley's 2022 OU class would've been # 9 - 11 nationally with a score of 271 getting who they'd have already committed and could've pushed to 296 (#3-5) getting all 3 of Jones, Dewberry, Campbell. Venables class will end up ~ #15 class if they get the 5 guys they're suppose to. They'll have massive holes on the OL and WR group. OU would've needed to do portal shopping for WR/TE under Riley also. The key will be how aggressively OU goes into the portal. Even with the five additional 2022 high school signees, OU'll only have 74 told players going into next year. They'll have only 14 OL and 13 WR/TE. Four of the WR/TE will be true freshmen so they'll be mostly useless. @Aqua Buddha Fud and kilroyos are right. Dindy is a baller who wants to play DE. OU sold him on an Isaiah Thomas-like role being outside on standard downs and moving inside on passing downs. Clemson told him he'd be inside mostly. A&M told him he'd be outside.
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OU Recruiting 2022: Abnormal Mutations in OUDNA
Kanak and Jayden Rowe profile similarly: 6-2, 210, 10.5 100m. Venables has said having a safety that can cover and play in the box makes calling defense easy. He's obviously not the only person who says this but he's had Roy Williams and Isaiah Simmons to show what he can do with this talent. If he can get both these guys on the field, things could fun.
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OU Recruiting 2022: Abnormal Mutations in OUDNA
Yeah, some of the non-football related allegations spilled out into the public, and then poof, nothing else was heard. Liberty-Baylor parallels are weirdly symmetric in this regard also. But, yeah, doesn't excuse Lebby at all, and the whitewashing of his past has been curious. None of the national stories covering his hire have mentioned it. Venables' coordinator hires have been weird for different reasons.
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Jimbo 2023: Watch.The.Tape.
@golfclap As an OU fan who hasn't lived in Texas for 25 years, I've been mostly been able to ignore A&M. But with the way they're pulling in talent, that isn't going to be possible now. This newfound recruiting prowess may mean the title of this thread requires a change. I humbling suggest "Watch.The.Bags"
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OU Recruiting 2022: Abnormal Mutations in OUDNA
I'm not letting Lebby off for any of it. Read what I wrote. Even if he participated in it, doubling down after the fact shows he didn't learn from it. We're agreeing.
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OU Recruiting 2022: Abnormal Mutations in OUDNA
@closetojumping posted just about the same thing as I did concurrently. This is the right answer. It is possible (though not likely) that Lebby was completely ignorant of the criminal behavior in Waco during Briles tenure. But why did Lebby have to come out in support of Briles after Art was fired? If family loyalty requires you to condone criminal behavior, your family is a problem.
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OU Recruiting 2022: Abnormal Mutations in OUDNA
I think it's a lot simpler than this. There's no requirement that you need a ceremony or edit to sign your scholarship letter. By Kanak quietly signing the letter and coming into Norman in January, OU doesn't provide ESPN another "Clemson ESPN 300 recruit follows Venables to OU" column, embarrassing Dabo and Venables and putting more pressure on the kid. This is the smart way to do this.
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Tell me about ou
Who is OU competing with to get Roof? They're overpaying him by 300K.
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Jimbo 2022: Balls To The Face
They may have needed to elevated Robinson to keep him. He's parlayed their bag game into one of the greatest recruiting years in history (on paper). I agree with one of the writers on that board that pairing Robinson with an old head would be a better move. Ted Roof anyone?
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Jimbo 2022: Balls To The Face
Probably the best hire for Riley so far. Riley's best skill is marrying run/pass counters and using them to create explosive plays. His run game had become stale at OU. Having a new, good run game coordinator may revitalize his run game concepts. I think Riley will still want to call plays.
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2022 Transfer Thread - It's the End of the World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)
Don't we need to know who the OC is before we declare this is a good or bad fit? Nix has proven that he's not able to transcend scheme.
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Jimbo 2022: Balls To The Face
I detest A&M's culture, and find it frustrating that I have to think about the Aggies at all, but here we are. - DC hire: The stacking of top classes on top of each other is going to amplify their success, especially on the DL. I worry that the new DC's going to be able to stop the run with a light box and get pressure with 4 or 5 just because of overwhelming talent. This is obvious to coaches, so they'll likely get a good DC, and he'll look like a genius because a logerithmic talent advantage is hard to screw up. Rays of hope: > They still do have to hire a DC, and they could do something dumb like hire an NFL guy who uses hieroglyphs signal in calls. > They've taken an NFL approach to defensive roster construction with resources mostly dedicated to the DL. That works in the NFL because the baseline for LB and DB play is so high. Most of their superior talent on the back end is in the 2022 class, and freshmen remain freshmen. > They've taken 18 DL in the last 3 classes. Five 0-1 tech, six 3-tech, seven (!) 5+ tech. Not all of these guys are going to be able to see the field. They're going to see some attrition soon. - QB play: Their floor has been raised considerably with addition of Max Johnson. If you watched him this year, he's a plus college QB. He's better than whomever Georgia's roled out since Aaron Murray probably, and he won't lose games for them. He's not Bryce Young or Mack Jones, but the likelihood that he's going to give away a game Ole Miss or Tennessee is low. Rays of hope: > Jimbo's still running the offense. > Johnson's not a generational QB, but he's going to have Jimbo's trust and be around for possibly 2 years. Weigman could get impatient and portal or play baseball. - OL development: They've got a good coach, they've recruited well, and they're returning the majority of their line. Despite having 2 frosh starters, they ran the ball reasonably well vs SEC teams. Ray of hope: > One thing to monitor is that the A&M lost their S&C coach, Jerry Schmidt, who went back to OU. Schimdt is an ass, and drove off a lot of OL over his 20 years at OU. But he was also at least partially responsible for OU having good to great OL consistently over almost two decades. If they get Tommy Moffitt, this probably goes from a negative to a plus for the Aggies. I think their window is the next 2-3 years. They have a relatively easy out of conference marquee opponent, Miami, in 2022 and 2023. Then ND comes on the schedule. Freeman may have the Irish cooking by then, and UT and OU may replace Vandy and South Carolina.
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Tell me about the University of Southern California
This year I only watched USC after Riley left for LA, and only 10 min highlights of their games at that. I agree with you about "recruiters only" being a good model for position coach hires. I had info that Williams was a good coach (from the "2 High" PFF podcast). So thank you for the info. Shoehorning him onto the USC staff makes even less sense now. Just so you know, Riley's nepotistic defensive hiring may be his undoing. Of the defensive coaches you got, Cain is the only one who'll be missed in Norman. He recruited well, and his edge/DE players seem to love him. Odom is a good story, but he was a subpar at OU. His LBs were reasonably good vs the run, but they were generally terrible in zone coverage. He was the worst recruiter on the staff at OU. Manning's CB got WORSE under his tutelage, but he brings energy and is a good recruiter. Grinch recruits the safety position well, but his safeties were the worst position group overall on the defense. His frustrating insistence on playing tiny nickel backs was a boon to offensive efficiency throughout the conference. If I were a Trojan supporter, I'd be concerned that Riley brought most of his defensive staff to Norman. BTW, the biggest weakness, pun intended, of the new Trojan staff may be its S&C coach, Bennie Wiley. While flexibility and quickness may have improved for some players, overall the OL regressed annually under his helm, and the need for frequent substitutions on defense probably cost OU games. Riley was frustrated with the compliance department at OU. If he had any reservations about being coach at OU as the Sooners transition to the SECSECSEC, I think it would be that he wouldn't be able to pay players on the scale that the programs in that conference are doing. Odom and other coaches who were mediocre to poor recruiters at OU will likely see a change in fortune at USC. I anticipate the Trojans will have a top flight bag game and a lot of high profile NIL. But as is the case with A&M, it takes time for that to pay off in wins, and Riley doesn't have an elite defensive staff to compliment his offense like Jimbo had with Elko. I'm very interested to see the trajectory of Riley's Trojans. His nepotistic hires on defensive and S&C will set a ceiling for the program. His offense's running game is challenging to institute, and it was faltering at OU over the last couple of years. He's definitely bright, and his recruiting pitch will be hard to top (LA, $). I imagine he'll have them rolling by year 3 - 4.
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2019 TE Jared Wiley
I'm wondering if it's a Charleston Rambo situation. Rambo is a guy who couldn't put it together at OU, but became a true #1 receiver at Miami. Sometime the dose of humility that comes with the change of scenery is therapeutic.
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Tell me about the University of Southern California
Donte Williams, CB coach, is the most interesting name here. Grinch has been a DB coach most of his career. The staff also has Roy Manning, who was coaching CB at OU. Donte Williams may be the best DB coach of the bunch and is best recruiter. Williams was the contact for Domani Jackson (5-star recruit) who just committed to the Trojans. The proper business decision would be to keep Williams, but Grinch and Manning followed Riley to USC. Williams was the one USC coach I was hoping OU would have gone after.
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2019 TE Jared Wiley
OU needs TE in the worst way. Amongst the options in the portal, he's at or near the top. I doubt you'll see many players cross the OU-UT divide (Don't do it Marvin!), and Wiley probably won't, but I wonder what OU could do with him.
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OU Recruiting 2022: Abnormal Mutations in OUDNA
Venables has said he won't pursue or contact any players he recruited for Clemson, and I think he's explicitly stated he's not contacted Kanak or the 3-4 other defensive players who decommited. Venables grew up in KS and played LB, just like Kanak. I think it's different if Kanak reaches out to Venables at OU and tells that he's not going to sign with Clemson. Also, OU recruited Kanak prior to the staff changes. It's certainly different from what Riley's done, which is an "all's fair in love and recruiting" approach. Stoops has said that keeping Mixon was bad for OU and Mixon too, and that it was the worst decision he made at OU. The worst thing about Lebby's time at Baylor was the Lebby was one of the coaches who remained on the staff who actively defended Briles after the cover ups were revealed. Whether Lebby actively participated in the coverups is sort of immaterial at that point because it indicates he's tone deaf at least and possibly much worse. It will be interesting to see how Venables reconciles this with his overall message of family, faith, etc.
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OU Recruiting 2022: Abnormal Mutations in OUDNA
He smartly is waiting to see who OU gets at CB coach. OU could mess this up, but Arkansas, not the heaviest of hitters, seems to be #2 right now. I think they'll keep him if the rumors are true and OU gets Clinkscale from Michigan (who's really good).