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TwiceHorn

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  1. And yeah, as KYHorn notes, "inerrancy" maybe doesn't accurately describe what we mean anymore, but I'm kind of using it in its original meaning or connotation as absolute, literal truth. I remember as a little kid, my Dad read me stories from Hurlbut's Stories of the Bible, a classic illustrated tome of Bible stories. I asked my Dad if this stuff really happened. He didn't say "yes" or "no." He said, that doesn't really matter, I think you can see what the stories mean.
  2. My Mom wisely observed about 30 years ago that our UMC had a lot of undercover Baptists in it. My Mom was raised Baptist, but I think of the Missionary strain but I don't think there was a whole lot of thought behind it in her family, just the local country church with a good pastor and "nice" congregation. Dad was raised Methodist, took it pretty seriously, went to Hendrix for a couple of years before the war and I found out late in life had considered the ministry (anyone that knew my Dad would have found this ludicrous, he didn't have the personality for it). I fell away from the church during college and years after as most do, but not because of anything objectionable taught to me by the UMC. I really had a pretty positive experience with church as a kid. It later became important to me again and I came back and have been overall pretty proud of the denomination. Ironically, a lot of people that come back to religion/spirituality through addiction recovery wind up at non-denominational, congregational churches that seem laid back and do stadium Jesus, but have pretty toxic theology lurking under the surface.
  3. Our exes at the Global Methodist Church are very seriously flirting with adopting biblical inerrancy. That's probably gonna cause them another schism.
  4. Yep, mostly through their actions rather than trying to take on the hateful shit on social media. The former is very Christian, the latter not so much. I've cited it ironically on at least one occasion, but it's how it's supposed to work: They will know we are Christians by our love.
  5. How do I know that Matt Walsh doesn't go to any NFL games, or any in a locale with a sizable Hispanic population.
  6. It's kind of a natural MAGA thing not to expect consequences for actions, no matter how outrageous. They get it from their leader.
  7. Almost all the people crowing about their Christianity in the last couple of decades believe in biblical inerrancy. Baptists, Christers, and most non-denominationals believe in biblical inerrancy. Or at least their church/pastor does.
  8. Digame what you know about poll taxes and literacy tests, puta.
  9. I don't believe in biblical inerrancy. On the one hand, because the Bible is all we've got, it invites interpretation and unprincipled deviation from the "word of God." Cafeteria Christianity some like to call it. But my Christianity is mostly about how I conduct myself. People's Front of Judea stuff like whether women can be ordained or should be, or whatever, doesn't really affect me. .Christ tells me I can't earn salvation by compliance with the law, so I'm not going to get legalistic about it. I have yet to be appointed Judge of Christians, Christianity, and correct church doctrine. As soon as I am, I'll take these issues under serious advisement.
  10. That said, I violently dislike fundagelicals and have for a good long while, really before they highly visibly started tearing this country apart. They did it quietly and insidiously for a good many years. And that's really a very un-Christian sentiment. Oddly enough, it's not that far off from criticizing other Christians for believing or not believing in the Trinity, or how they interpret "faith without works is dead," whether there was a virgin birth, or whether there's predestination and what that means. Peoples Front of Judea/Judean People's Front shit. That's spiritually dangerous territory. So, I am conscious of what Christ calls me to do (and not do), and how badly I fail to live up to that calling. There's a way for real Christians to criticize the fake or bullshit ones while not separating themselves further from the divine. I'm not good enough to do that, so I just say fuck em.
  11. I think prior to her appointment as DNI, you saw mostly campaign and image-controlled photos. Now, she gets snapped more often by the press. You can still see they try to flatter her, but . . . .
  12. Not a loophole. It's a bit fundamental. Christ teaches us to love our neighbors and our enemies equally.
  13. I don't know if she is or isn't a good candidate, or capable of being one. But this is seeming like maybe the truth. While a good "performance" back at the performative GOP seems worthwhile, you got to back it up with some substance at some point.
  14. Objection, assumes facts not in evidence, is a legal conclusion, states an opinion without proper foundation.
  15. One of the problems here is that those of true Christian faith adhere to the notion of "judge not, lest ye be judged." And that's related to the principle that you are kind to your neighbors and strangers, of whatever faith or creed or color, and treat them as you would your own. So, those of you who are asking Christians to be tolerant of and loving to others, as Christ taught, are also asking Christians to condemn other professed Christians. Not that those professed Christians are entitled to any special treatment, indeed, they are entitled to the tolerance and love that everyone else is. It's not quite that simple, but it's a thing.
  16. Well, obviously, you are a Strong, Well Spoken Black ManTM. And probably a part of that is your ability to dismiss such things. Others may not have that ability, and there's probably a subconscious aspect to it as well. That is, it affects you and others in a negative way that's less conscious than being hurt by it. I'm glad you're here. And a lot of other people of diverse experience and background that I could endlessly list. You make me a better person.
  17. It's evidence that the Asian guy is about 100x the human being that is the white guy.
  18. The other thing I have come to appreciate about racism is the mental aspect. It's not just the laws and customs that deliberately and overtly denied and continue to deny minorities opportunities. It's the psychological effect. What must it be like to be told and reminded that you are a second-class citizen? Every. Goddamn. Day. Of. Your. Life. What does that do to people?
  19. I have to confess that I notice "articulate" black people. Is that racist? Yes, in some sense I guess it is. But it gruntles me to see the disadvantaged succeed. And of course seeing "articulateness" as a sign of success I guess is kind of fucked up. And maybe wanting to see the disadvantaged succeed is some kind of salve to my conscience, I don't know. Maybe one thing that informs it is that my parents are from the country. When they moved to Dallas, they consciously shed the telltale signs of being country, the aint's the cain'ts, the po lice. They code switched. But they never had to switch back. I became conscious of this because sometimes after being around my grandparents, I'd say "ain't" or something kind of like it and I'd get chastised mildly for it, like I busted out with "shit" or "fart" or something. "That's a crude or vulgar word, don't use it, people will think you're country/dumb/ignorant/vulgar." Also, particularly with my Dad, I think he saw blatant, expressed racism as another sign of country ignorance that was to be shed. I can't say he was entirely free of discriminatory notions, but for a white man born in southern Arkansas in the 20s, he was about as anti-racist as a person could be. My mother's brother was also college educated and served in the Army Air Corps during WWII (I think my Dad's service and exposure to other educated men from around the country helped form some of his ideas about not being country or racist). But by hook or crook, in pursuing a professional career in business, he remained in country places like Bastrop, LA and Natchez, MS and retained a lot of country vernacular. My Mom was pretty critical of him for doing that. So, I'm proud of my parents for having emerged from a pretty backward, country, agrarian, no-future life into the thoroughly upper-middle. And providing me with immense opportunity. And my grandparents for being stuck there but providing that opportunity for them. It astonishes me, really, that my parents in the 1930s in rural Arkansas were as expected to go to college as I was in suburban Dallas in the 1980s. And I have been guilty of patting myself, really my family, on the back. And admiring their "bootstraps." But I have also come to realize that they rode a pretty unprecedented wave of American prosperity after WWII. And that black people and other minorities were systematically excluded from that prosperity. So, I like to see people overcome. My parents did. A guy like thatguy has overcome more. That fills me with admiration and a certain joy in an existence where that can be hard to find.
  20. What's the deal with the red flags? And why can't MAGAts stick with one argument? They are constantly shifting the argument, if it's not straight whataboutism. You see it here, it's everywhere. (this is a rhetorical question).
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