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  1. That's a fair point 5 years ago & even now as most NIL is just getting going. How many 4* do they get while recruiting against OU & UT by offering playing time? How many do they get vs. second & third tier teams around the country that they're on mostly equal footing with in regards to program status & location? Now, how is that going to change when UT is offering $50k+ minimum NIL for every roster spot + the availability of corporate deals if they come in & become starters vs. what OSU has to offer? What happens when OSU discovers a bunch of those under-valued HS players but can't afford them after their sophomore year because literally any and every B1G & SEC team can afford to pay them more or they can play closer to home (Dallas, Houston, wherever else OSU recruits) & they can make as much/more there? Have you been watching their portal attrition this year? Maybe a lot of that is players not jiving with probably the best coach OSU has ever had (that may be an issue in and of itself), but how much more is it that OSU can't afford their best players & they're leaving to make more money? That's a big change & the longer it goes on the bigger the ripple will be. Just look at the new Big 12 Houston - better location more corporate sponsors TCU - ditto UCF - ditto Cincinnati - ditto (even though I personally don't like Cincy) TTU - New boosters with F you type of money - we'll see how long they intend to fund TTU athletics, but the start looks promising BU - no clue about NIL but certainly closer to home for most Texas recruits BYU - no clue but they seem rabid enough. Does/Can the Mormon church or any of the companies it owns help? WVU/KSU/KU/ISU - probably going to be the group that OSU falls into with the obvious exception of KU MBB That's just the BIG 12. It's not just the blue chips that are going to be paid & that line of thinking is exactly how you end up behind the curve.
  2. He donated $600mm+ in 20 years - probably not all direct to athletics, but I'm sure athletics benefited in some form or fashion from the vast majority of it. I'm not saying he was your only donor, I'm saying he was y'alls Phil Knight with the kind of "F you" money & dedication you need when you don't have any advantages. You live in a place that has few D1 recruits, you're already second fiddle to an in-state blue-blood, you have very little history, & now you don't even have the ability to tell recruits "come here and beat up on UT & OU for not recruiting you". I'm not here to speculate on the demise of OSU, but acting like nothing is going to change when UT & OU are pulling in triple what you are from TV revenue alone & you no longer have a T Boone to help make up what's lost while enjoying no inherent advantage of any sort seems a little optimistic to me. You LITERALLY announced a plan with almost $0 funding (ETA: $55mm was previously raised for upgrades to BPS, so $270mm)- it even says that in the announcements. “I think it’s a great day for the future, but it is really just a roadmap,” Weiberg said. “This is the plan, and as we’ve talked internally, with our team, [senior associate AD] Larry Reece and [deputy athletic director] Reid Sigmon and others involved, we’re very aware that now is when the work begins. This is just the start. Now, the real work begins both in the fundraising and acquiring the resources, but also in the next steps of the planning and construction. This will be a long process, but you got to start somewhere. Today is the start.” “So as far as the timeline, we don’t have one specifically for a couple of different reasons,” Weiberg said. “One, this will all be predicated on gathering the resources needed to do these, but regardless, it’s a years-in-the-making project. Even if we had all of the resources readily available now, you can see that these projects will take a lot of time to design and plan for and build. The timeline will be set by how we are able to gain the resources.” Kinda like how I have plans to buy the Dallas Cowboys from Jerry Jones for a price even he couldn't refuse, just waiting on a few big donors... The road map is there, can anyone spot me $20 billion?
  3. Those aren't a pimple on T Boone's ass when it comes to donations & with the ever-widening gap in TV revenue your school is going to need a LOT more than $20mm gifts here & there. Personally, I'd suggest y'all start a powerball group with a written agreement to give 3/4 to OSU athletics. That could help if you hit one of the big ones.
  4. Did they raise T. Boone from the dead or is there another oil tycoon that we haven't been introduced to yet that is ready, willing, & able to fund the facility &, now, NIL arms races?
  5. Probably one that TTU or KU has already started...
  6. So is Aragorn the B1G that comes in, saves the PAC 12 momentarily while killing the Big 12 expansion & then going & tracking down UO & UW w/ USC as Legolas & UCLA as Gimli?
  7. Vandy, Ole Miss, & Mizzou
  8. Would the SEC want 3 teams in the same state that the rest of the conference recruits so heavily? Would they prefer the B1G gain a foothold in their territory because they passed on one of them? Neither of those sound like great outcomes for the SEC so it'll be interesting to see which they pursue hardest. Is there a way for the SEC to get FSU & hope the B1G doesn't go after Miami due to B1G snobbery & watch Miami go to the Big 12 which already has UCF in-state? That would probably be best case for the SEC along with adding UNC & maybe UVA & Clemson.
  9. I don't think it's a given that Big 12 teams leave while they're making considerably more money than ACC teams & will renegotiate their TV deals before the ACC. I think the opposite is as likely/more likely & the Big 12 will be filling in its Midwest & Eastern portion with those quality sloppy seconds once the B1G & SEC are finished pillaging whatever schools they want.
  10. OSU flaking on the UW game is such a bitch move. They don't want 2 WC games in the same season but USC & UCLA are about to have 4-5 trips to the Midwest/EC every year? Pussies. I have a hard time believing the big dogs in the ACC are going to stand pat for the next 10+ years while the B1G & SEC schools are making 3X what they're making from the TV deals. I know there are a lot of hurdles for those schools, but I give it 5 years max before announcements start to be made about FSU, Clemson, UNC, Virginia, ND, & Miami
  11. That says more about the lack of brand power that a&m has than anything else. They were an addition based on location only &, if it wasn't obvious before, it's very obvious now.
  12. The biggest problem with that is you're limiting how often every team plays each other. Sure you play the teams in your division every year, but you go 4 years between teams from other divisions. Pods or 3-6-6 cuts that down to every other year which helps maintain the allure of some of the secondary rivalries that are going to be forfeited & keeps the big brands playing each other more often. Also, I believe the SEC has come out and said they're not doing divisions so the discussion is a moo point.
  13. Well considering I said "UF/Tenn is probably the biggest miss" in my post, I think it's safe to say I know they're rivals. I consider Tenn/Bama & UF/UGA to be bigger rivals so they got priority, after that I consider LSU/UF, UK/Tenn to be a better setup than UF/Tenn, UK/LSU but it's whatever at that point.
  14. It's fun to see everyone's predictions/desires. Bama: Auburn, Tenn, LSU Arky: UT, a&m, Mizzou AU: Bama, UGA, MSU UF: UGA, LSU, KU UGA: UF, AU, SC KU: Tenn, UF, MSU LSU: Bama, a&m, UF MSU: OM, KU, AU OM: MSU, Vandy, OU Mizzou: OU, Arky, SC OU: UT, OM, Mizzou SC: UGA, Vandy, Mizzou Tenn: Bama, Vandy, KU UT: OU, Arky, a&m a&m: UT, LSU, Arky Vandy: Tenn, SC, Ole Miss Everyone gets their primary rival & has at least 1 big name. Some are tougher than others, but with the expanded playoffs I don't think anyone will mind too much & that's what helps drive TV $$$ anyways. UF/TENN is probably the biggest miss
  15. I was thinking 2026 instead of 2036. Holy crap what a terrible deal for the ACC, there's no way those schools go 10+ years making that much less than the Big 12, much less the SEC/B1G. I bet we see some movement sooner than later with that conference. Find soft landings for enough schools (B1G, SEC, BIG 12) & they can vote to void the GOR & get out without penalty. Even if they can't get out, the $120mm exit fee would be made up in a few years in the B1G or SEC & then you're making up the difference plus some by the time 2036 rolls around.
  16. Will ESPN pony up the money? Do they still want to broadcast college football games that people watch because, if so, the SEC has them by the balls now that the B1G has moved on to FOX/CBS/NBC. ESPN can get cheap inventory with the ACC/PAC12/Big 12 & when the ACC blows up in 2 years they'll be off the hook for that money & can consolidate their expenses even more. They're not going to fuck around & find out with the SEC though, especially after all the work they did to get UT & OU there in time for 2024.
  17. This play is burned into my mind for all of eternity. I remember exactly where I was & what I was doing when I watched this play live. How in the hell can a guy hurdle one defender while simultaneously trucking another? So much talent but so damn soft. It's a perfect gif to use as an example of how the RRS went during the Stoops/Brown years with few exceptions.
  18. I think you meant "Pop Rocks" solid
  19. With regards to the contract, sure. With regards to the future, I'd say we have some leverage as the biggest brand in college sports. What happens when the SEC TV deal is up & you have 2 of the biggest brands with a big ax to grind against FOX because they were being bitches about a few games? We won't run the SEC like we do the BIG 12, but I guarantee our voices will be heard loud & clear. It behooves FOX to get as much as they can from us right up to the point that it pisses us off.
  20. At this point I don't know that the Big 12 should push westward. I think I'd wait for the ACC TV negotiations in 2026 & see if the B1G & SEC blow up that conference (seems likely at this point but who knows with this stuff) & see if you can't get some of those schools that at least show a propensity for caring about sports. Helps the new Eastern schools with travel as well. If the B1G & SEC take some combination of FSU, Miami, Clemson, NC, Duke, & Virginia there are still plenty of good addition opportunities. Pitt, Va Tech, NCST, UL, Syracuse if you want a NY based team. I'd take most of those over the AZ schools on top of it being logistically friendly to the Eastern schools. If for some reason one of those primary choices don't get picked then even better.
  21. Again, "drastic changes" that have been known since September of 2021. Let's not act like the +4 was found out yesterday, they've had 16 months to plan for this. Maybe Yormark cleaned house & threw away any work that was done on the schedule & has ONLY had 6 months to figure it out. You'd like to think the Big 12 would capitalize on any momentum they had going from the TV deal & TCU's season by releasing the schedule in the weeks leading up to the playoffs, or the championship, or after the championship. Before the NFL playoffs took over the news cycle & college football enthusiasm had died down for the year. Lots of airtime to fill during bowl games, ability to talk about the new schools new opponents & getting a head start on season ticket sells. Or, you could announce a plan to unveil it like the Pac 12 & ACC have done. But, nothing. Not a peep. No one knows anything about it, when it will drop, just silence. It was supposed to be announced at the beginning of December, then mid-December, now.... end of the month maybe? How does that not throw up red flags?
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