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RandomIdoit

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  1. Birthright citizenship and welfare and medical care for their children who will be born here.
  2. Not agreeing with it but you asked. This is how it happened as far as I could tell: Trump did not want people released into the United States that had not been approved for asylum. Because of Reno vs. Flores, children could not be detained more than 20 days, so they had to be sent to centers where they could be housed in the mean time. His motivations were to punish and deter immigrants from coming here. Now he plans to make them waive their child’s right to release and be detained indefinitely as a family, or exercise their child’s right to release and be separated from your child once more.
  3. That would be a legal avenue. But that still does not remove the incentives for people wanting to come illegally.
  4. Just eliminate all the incentives that they have to come here illegally. If they cannot work, do not get birthright citizenship for their children, do not get government assistance for their children, and are deported immediately, there will be less incentive to come illegally. We can raise the amount of people we take in legally at the same time.
  5. Sane people do not want them dead. They want them to enter legally and to have their cases heard and ruled on in a timely fashion without letting them run around the country before they are approved for asylum.
  6. What would the number of bigots be versus the number of non-bigots that would defend them?
  7. So how would the "administration going full genocide" as you said earlier work then? Trump just calls up some peeps and is like "hey, shoot any brown person you see, okay?" and then they are like "sure thing boss." And everyone in the country just sits by idly while it happens?
  8. Would you expect Congress and SCOTUS to sit idle if there was an actual genocidal executive order?
  9. How would they "go full genocide"? Is Trump going to issue an executive order to kill all immigrants?
  10. Is anyone on here advocating to set up machine gun nests along the border to gun down people? I think most people want immigrants to wait their turn like so many people have to do. I think most people would like to see the asylum cases heard in a reasonable amount of time, say 30 days, not 2+ years. Determine if they are eligible for asylum, then either welcome them in or send them home.
  11. I guess it depends on your definition of good. Enforcing our immigration laws does not make us a bad nation. Asking people to follow the rules and immigrate legally does not make us a bad nation. Separating families as a deterrent/punishment does make us a bad nation but most rational people do not support this policy.
  12. You should know their comeback to this is, "We are supposed to be better than them", "Why are you comparing us to them?", "Do you want us to be like them?", etc.
  13. You can be Donald Trump posting on a message board. This site can be run by Daniel Figurelli. Laws can be made because people are racists. All of congress can be racists, the president who signs the bill can be racist, the supreme court who rule on the constitutionality of the laws can be racists. Racists, racists, racists. This is a fun game.
  14. They can be motivated by the temperature of the room, that doesn't mean they are. They CAN be motivated by anything, but you are just making an assumption.
  15. So just to recap, you are unsure if there are any racist laws or not. But the laws that we do have are racist because the immigration regime we have is racist and enforcing the laws is racist. Also, when the laws were written, they became racist laws because the people who passed the law were racist nationalists.
  16. So it's a hypothetical racist law that he is hypothetically supporting. Got it.
  17. Then I asked which laws are racist. I agreed separating families is targeted at Mexican and Central American immigrants is racist but as someone else pointed out, it's not actually a law.
  18. If I cannot support either, I will not just vote for the sake of voting.
  19. You were the one who said the laws are racist. I just want to know HOW they are racist. Last time I checked the laws were the same for all non-citizens. Enforcing the laws is not racist. Choosing who to enforce them on and not enforce them on based on their race is. They need to enforce them equally on everyone (which I do not think they do, but believe they should).
  20. I think you are misunderstanding me, I don't need proof that separating families is racist. I need to know what laws are racist. Do not agree.
  21. I support upholding the law and changing the laws that need to be changed. I didn't vote for Trump, and I'll vote on a case by case basis this November. If I don't agree with either, I will abstain.
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